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by Robert J. » Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:34 am

How many of you out there purchase organic produce exclusively? For the longest time my wife and I have tried to do so. Due to availability it doesn't always work out, mind you. But we try.

The other day I was in the store buying stuff for salsa and dinner. I grabbed my organic white onion and put it on the scale. The onion weighed just over a pound and came in at just over $3.00!!! for one friggin onion!!! Then I grabbed a scrawny bunch of cilantro and notice that it was pushing $2.00/bunch!! I didn't even touch the organic tomatoes.

I have been accustomed to organics running higher than conventional but three bucks for one onion. I put it back and got the same size conventional onion for just over fifty cents. That's a huge price difference. I then put back the cilantro and a grabbed a conventional bunch that was twice as large for fifty cents.

What gives? We have been getting some organic produce at the farmer's market for a little less than what I am seeing in the stores. But we can't always get to the farmer's market. I may have to switch to conventional. Bummer.

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by RichardAtkinson » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:19 am

I will buy organic fresh produce if it looks better....well, maybe. Like you, I've had a couple of bouts of sticker shock.

I do purchase organic beef. Steaks mostly. I've found the flavor to be far superior to the normal store issue. Its about 1.5 -2 times the price, but worth it, I think.

And I try to purchase Organic dried spices, herbs etc.. Again, I've found the quality to be superior to the big brand names.

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by Cynthia Wenslow » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:45 am

When I am shopping for just myself, it's easy to stick with organics. But when, for whatever reason, I am feeding larger groups of people, it quickly gets completely out of sight of my food budget.

That's one reason I plant a vegetable garden each year. I am lucky to have a medium sized yard where I live and the landlady, happily also my best friend, is pleased to have me do anything I want to the property.
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by Jo Ann Henderson » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:47 am

I often shop at a coop market where most of the fare is Organic, but not all. I always buy my spices from them because you can get 1 TBSP or 1 lb from their bulk jars, the turn over is constant, and it is very fresh. Even then, they have two jars of everything, one marked organic (green label) the other marked non-organic (yellow label). Organic produce leaves a little to be desired in the looks department, and the price is a bit rich for my taste. I've tried it and have to say that, honestly, I find little difference in the taste. However, I buy what's in season and most things that are locally grown so there is more ripening on the vine. Therefore, I don't think I miss what Organic has to offer. When I want good quality meats at a descent price, I go to the local butcher (yes, we still have one in the neighborhood) and get something aged. I think it's better than what I have bought from the coop that's marked Organic.

Personally, I think Organic has its place but I'm not certain that the label always has meaning. (What is Organic Rosemary? The stuff grows wild around here and you can find it in every yard on every block!) I want to support the local farms and want to be assured that my food is free of pesticides, excessive hormones and other carcinogenic agents as well. But sometimes I wonder if it's not more merchandising hype and slight of hand than conscientious commodity supplier. I'm not slamming it. I just want to understand -- JUST WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? Those of you who are in the business, can you lend a little education, please?
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Re: Organics

by Thomas » Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:51 pm

JoAnne,

The word "organic" has reached the hearts and bank books of corporate America--some big guns are in the business these days. I fear organic may be on a slippery slope.

The best defense is offense--grow your own, and then learn how to can, freeze and preserve. If you don't have the plot of land needed, get to know the farmers at your local farmer's market.

Incidentally, there is no need for most organic vegetables to look bad--fruit is a separate issue.
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by Stuart Yaniger » Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:10 pm

I just buy the best I can find and don't worry about the political labels. Just got back from my semi-weekly Larry's run with a flat of the best damn strawberries I've had all summer. Organic? I haven't a clue. Better than any organic stuff at Whole Paycheck? Yes indeed. And it supports local farmers.
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One farmer's opinion: Organic IS hype !

by Bill Spencer » Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:30 pm

Jo Ann Henderson wrote:I ... want to be assured that my food is free of pesticides, excessive hormones and other carcinogenic agents as well. But sometimes I wonder if it's not more merchandising hype and slight of hand than conscientious commodity supplier. I'm not slamming it. I just want to understand -- JUST WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? Those of you who are in the business, can you lend a little education, please?


%^)

I am a farmer and farm CONVENTIONALLY, not organically ... click on the link below and it will take you to a pesticide and fungicide residue analysis of my CONVENTIONALLY grown lemons ...

http://www.associatedcitrus.com/AuthNO_06_07854.pdf

Listed is basically every known pesticide/fungicide known to man ... note that after every listed chemical name there is the initials "ND" ... that stands for non-detectable ... in otherwords, THERE AIN'T ANY ! The lab couldn't find any because by the time the lemons are mature, there's not a damn thing left in the fruit that could hurt anybody ! NOTHING !

Spend a few bucks and send any CONVENTIONALLY grown fruit or vegetable to a laboratory like Primus Labs and dimes to donuts you won't, AGAIN, find a damn thing !

There are no better stewards of the land than farmers, including farmers who grow CONVENTIONALLY ... we just don't get paid a damn thing for what we grow because tree-hugging idiots out there who don't know ANYTHING about farming think organic is safer and will part with a significant portion of their hard earned dollars to reassure themselves that what they are eating is "safer" ...

Bull$hit !

And organic farmers spend a fair amount of their income spreading the lie that organic is safer through organic organizations, the media, and whatever other sources they can find ... as the demand for organics increases, so will the price ...

Organics safer ? Every year I watch the organic farmers preparing the soil and growing their crops ... the main source of nitrogen, which ALL plants must have to thrive and grow, for organically grown fruits and vegetables is cow $hit ... did anybody note that the recent spinach e-coli outbreak was first found in a well known name brand ORGANIC bag ?

Grrrrrrrrrr ...

Sorry ... this just gets me going ... I apologize if I stepped on any toes with this tirade ... just get tired of it AND trying to survive in this farming game ...

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by Bob Henrick » Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:30 pm

Robert, I read a lot of stuff here about organic foods, and how much better they are for me. and how much better they taste, and have on occasion succumbed to the lure. Plus, I grew up on a farm where if Mom wanted chicken for Sunday dinner I or one of my siblings chased down a hen or a rooster as directed and rung it's neck. Mom grew a garden and the chicken droppings made for nearly all the fertilizer ever put on the garden soil. Produce from the garden was in part consumed fresh and a LOT of it was canned for later. In lots of the third world countries human waste is still used for food crop fertilizer and little is known about sanitation. all this makes the crops "organic" I guess. I am not so sure though that it makes it safer, nor any better for the consumer or if it tastes any better. I do know that anything marked as "organic" in a food market in this country will carry a price of 100% or more of the regular stuff, and it is my opinion that "organic" is mostly hooey and is in general another way to jack up the price. Just my opinion though. I must say I think that P. T. Barnum had it right all those many years ago. I know that this stance will engender a bunch of anti hormone claims and there will be a few posts with which I will agree. Mainly those will be with the way food animals are raised and slaughtered. But we have the ability as a people to put a stop to all that through political actions if we only wanted to. The forum curmudgeon now steps down off his soap box.
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by Mike Filigenzi » Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:56 pm

My wife generally tries to buy all organic produce. She's in the laboratory business and sees too many occasions in which there ends up being more stuff in the food than there should be. She's also of the opinion that the less we use pesticides the better off we'll all be, whether it gets in the food or not.

But I work in a food safety lab myself, and I don't really worry about it. I end up buying a lot of organic stuff because I shop at the local co-op and farmers' markets and most of what they sell is organic. But I generally don't pay attention to the labels. Like Stuart, I'm more interested in getting what's fresh, local, and in excellent condition.


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by Stuart Yaniger » Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:51 pm

A somewhat humorous side-note: I got into a conversation with the produce department manager at our local (name of big chain deleted to protect the innocent). They've gone big-time into organic. Anyway, while he was trying to hunt up some basil for me (no go), he asked me where I like getting produce. I told him Berkeley Bowl for the exotics, Larry's for the staples. He shook his head sadly and told me, "Every year, the week Larry's opens, our sales drop by a third." I responded that, well, the prices were a lot lower and the quality was a lot higher. He shamefacedly admitted that, yes, it's true, and that's why HE shops there...

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by Bob Henrick » Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:07 pm

Stu, is Larry's all organic? inquiring minds and such.
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by Stuart Yaniger » Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:24 pm

No, that was my point- there's probably both, I pay zero attention. The stuff is great, and given a choice between non-organic at a farm stand and organic at Safeway or Whole Paycheck, I'll take the farm stand every time.

I still miss Baugher's back in Maryland.
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by Bob Henrick » Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:39 pm

Thanks Stu, you reinforce my curmudgeonly stance!
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Re: One farmer's opinion: Organic IS hype !

by Robert J. » Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:57 pm

Bill Spencer wrote:
Jo Ann Henderson wrote:I ... want to be assured that my food is free of pesticides, excessive hormones and other carcinogenic agents as well. But sometimes I wonder if it's not more merchandising hype and slight of hand than conscientious commodity supplier. I'm not slamming it. I just want to understand -- JUST WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? Those of you who are in the business, can you lend a little education, please?


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I am a farmer and farm CONVENTIONALLY, not organically ... click on the link below and it will take you to a pesticide and fungicide residue analysis of my CONVENTIONALLY grown lemons ...

http://www.associatedcitrus.com/AuthNO_06_07854.pdf

Listed is basically every known pesticide/fungicide known to man ... note that after every listed chemical name there is the initials "ND" ... that stands for non-detectable ... in otherwords, THERE AIN'T ANY ! The lab couldn't find any because by the time the lemons are mature, there's not a damn thing left in the fruit that could hurt anybody ! NOTHING !

Spend a few bucks and send any CONVENTIONALLY grown fruit or vegetable to a laboratory like Primus Labs and dimes to donuts you won't, AGAIN, find a damn thing !

There are no better stewards of the land than farmers, including farmers who grow CONVENTIONALLY ... we just don't get paid a damn thing for what we grow because tree-hugging idiots out there who don't know ANYTHING about farming think organic is safer and will part with a significant portion of their hard earned dollars to reassure themselves that what they are eating is "safer" ...

Bull$hit !

And organic farmers spend a fair amount of their income spreading the lie that organic is safer through organic organizations, the media, and whatever other sources they can find ... as the demand for organics increases, so will the price ...

Organics safer ? Every year I watch the organic farmers preparing the soil and growing their crops ... the main source of nitrogen, which ALL plants must have to thrive and grow, for organically grown fruits and vegetables is cow $hit ... did anybody note that the recent spinach e-coli outbreak was first found in a well known name brand ORGANIC bag ?

Grrrrrrrrrr ...

Sorry ... this just gets me going ... I apologize if I stepped on any toes with this tirade ... just get tired of it AND trying to survive in this farming game ...

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Bill, there is no apology necessary. This is actually very useful information. I also think that I am just going to forget about it and follow Stuarts tack: buy what looks good. And Cynthia's tack: buy what fits the budget.

I do think that the line between organic and conventional is becoming more and more blurred. I just don't want to end up buying onions that have been spliced with dogs or pillbugs. I hope that farming never comes to that.

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Re: One farmer's opinion: Organic IS hype !

by Randy Buckner » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:22 pm

Sorry ... this just gets me going ... I apologize if I stepped on any toes with this tirade ...


Never apologize, Bill. The predators around here will go for your soft underbelly!

Actually, I'm 100 percent in agreement with you. "Organic" is a great marketing gimmick IMHO. It makes us feel good about planet earth, but in reality it is more like this article states:

In addition, the whole concept of organic is likely to be bent and extended. Companies like Kraft (Boca Burger), General Mills (Cascadian Farms), and Dean Foods (Horizon) have already got into the market, and now are prepared to expand. (The article cites organic Rice Krispies and organic Macaroni & Cheese among other products.) Basically, we imagine that these products will use some technically organic elements, but the substitution of organic cane sugar for regular old sugar is unlikely to make them more healthy. Kellogg, for example, is going to sell organic "Frosted-Mini Wheats." As one expert quoted in the Times article is quoted as saying: "It's a ploy to be able to charge more for junk food."

I have not seen any medical studies that show organic food is any more healthy or safe than traditionally grown foods. We might like to think so, but I have not seen conclusive evidence.
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by Stuart Yaniger » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:36 pm

I just don't want to end up buying onions that have been spliced with dogs or pillbugs.


I dunno, that would be kinda cool. Celebrities could sell produce or meat with parts of their genes spliced in. I'm thinking Newman's Own green beans or Paris Hilton clams, Rachel Ray EVOO. If I could get Scarlett Johannsen red frisee, I could fulfill a long-time fantasy.
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Re: One farmer's opinion: Organic IS hype !

by Hoke » Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:08 am

Let us not overlook one part of what Stuart said.

No, I don't mean the Scarlet J. Frisee, although that is thought provoking.

I mean the "locally produced" part of it. I consider locally produced as a much more important aspect than organic. If it's organic, that might noodge me a little more in that direction, but if it's locally produced, that's way more than a noodge.

It's the farmer's markets, and the local producers, and the regional producers that I'm interested in. Some of those are organic (many are) but some are not. They are, by and large, not the agribusinesses, and they are not shipping in from around the world. So it's more seasonal, yes, but nothing wrong with living by the seasons (without being ridiculous about it.

Farming...modern farming...tends to be energy-expensive. If you can rely on as much of your food as possible from locally produced sources, you're not adding to that energy bill (as in, why are you buying bottled water shipped all the way from France or Italy, when you can get pretty much the same product either locally, or better yet, from your own tap?).

As to the big players getting in the organics game----when did we ever expect they wouldn't if they saw a chance to make another buck? Again, buy locally produced, where organics is more likely to actually mean something. Despite Bill's fervor, I'd still prefer eating foods that weren't doused with herbicides and pesticides and synthetic chemicals as a means of sustaining the agricultural production. Given a choice, I mean.
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Re: One farmer's opinion: Organic IS hype !

by Thomas » Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:29 am

Bill Spencer wrote:
Jo Ann Henderson wrote:I ... want to be assured that my food is free of pesticides, excessive hormones and other carcinogenic agents as well. But sometimes I wonder if it's not more merchandising hype and slight of hand than conscientious commodity supplier. I'm not slamming it. I just want to understand -- JUST WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? Those of you who are in the business, can you lend a little education, please?


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I am a farmer and farm CONVENTIONALLY, not organically ... click on the link below and it will take you to a pesticide and fungicide residue analysis of my CONVENTIONALLY grown lemons ...

http://www.associatedcitrus.com/AuthNO_06_07854.pdf

Listed is basically every known pesticide/fungicide known to man ... note that after every listed chemical name there is the initials "ND" ... that stands for non-detectable ... in otherwords, THERE AIN'T ANY ! The lab couldn't find any because by the time the lemons are mature, there's not a damn thing left in the fruit that could hurt anybody ! NOTHING !

Spend a few bucks and send any CONVENTIONALLY grown fruit or vegetable to a laboratory like Primus Labs and dimes to donuts you won't, AGAIN, find a damn thing !

There are no better stewards of the land than farmers, including farmers who grow CONVENTIONALLY ... we just don't get paid a damn thing for what we grow because tree-hugging idiots out there who don't know ANYTHING about farming think organic is safer and will part with a significant portion of their hard earned dollars to reassure themselves that what they are eating is "safer" ...

Bull$hit !

And organic farmers spend a fair amount of their income spreading the lie that organic is safer through organic organizations, the media, and whatever other sources they can find ... as the demand for organics increases, so will the price ...

Organics safer ? Every year I watch the organic farmers preparing the soil and growing their crops ... the main source of nitrogen, which ALL plants must have to thrive and grow, for organically grown fruits and vegetables is cow $hit ... did anybody note that the recent spinach e-coli outbreak was first found in a well known name brand ORGANIC bag ?

Grrrrrrrrrr ...

Sorry ... this just gets me going ... I apologize if I stepped on any toes with this tirade ... just get tired of it AND trying to survive in this farming game ...

Clink !

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Bill,

I am on your side. The word "organic" is marketing, indeed.

I know that what I grow on my seven acres conventionally is superior to anyhting I can buy at Wegmans--the big food store in this part of the universe.
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Re: One farmer's opinion: Organic IS hype !

by Thomas » Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:32 am

Hoke wrote:Let us not overlook one part of what Stuart said.

No, I don't mean the Scarlet J. Frisee, although that is thought provoking.

I mean the "locally produced" part of it. I consider locally produced as a much more important aspect than organic. If it's organic, that might noodge me a little more in that direction, but if it's locally produced, that's way more than a noodge.

It's the farmer's markets, and the local producers, and the regional producers that I'm interested in. Some of those are organic (many are) but some are not. They are, by and large, not the agribusinesses, and they are not shipping in from around the world. So it's more seasonal, yes, but nothing wrong with living by the seasons (without being ridiculous about it.

Farming...modern farming...tends to be energy-expensive. If you can rely on as much of your food as possible from locally produced sources, you're not adding to that energy bill (as in, why are you buying bottled water shipped all the way from France or Italy, when you can get pretty much the same product either locally, or better yet, from your own tap?).

As to the big players getting in the organics game----when did we ever expect they wouldn't if they saw a chance to make another buck? Again, buy locally produced, where organics is more likely to actually mean something. Despite Bill's fervor, I'd still prefer eating foods that weren't doused with herbicides and pesticides and synthetic chemicals as a means of sustaining the agricultural production. Given a choice, I mean.


Michael Pollan wrote a superb piece (again) a while back pointing out that centrally processed vegetables that take in produce from a variety of locales is quite a crap shoot, and it was mainly responsible for the spread of the e-coli outbreak.

Local is the only way to procure produce, in my opinion. Eat seasonal too.

I'm in the process of putting up a small greenhouse so that I can grow winter vegetables--been reading up on it.
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by RichardAtkinson » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:48 am

There is an Organic Certification" program here in the US. The fields have to lie fallow for 3 yrs with no application of commercial / industrial fertilizer / pesticides etc... Then all subsequent fertilization have to "organic" in nature. Most likely some type of manure. There is more , but you get the gist.

The big trade-off that no one talks about with regards to organic materials is the increase in micro-contamination as Bill said. Especially with produce, fruits, fresh herbs etc..

But you want to know what the kicker is? Alot of this these materials would be considered too contaminated by pharma standards...it can be used in the food industry...

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by Jenise » Sun Jul 01, 2007 11:42 am

Robert, my husband had a form of cancer few survive, and I have to do everything I can to prevent a recurrence. So what Jo Ann says applies to me, too: I want to support the local farms and want to be assured that my food is free of pesticides, excessive hormones and other carcinogenic agents as well.

When you look at the rates of cancer today vs 100 years ago, I don't think one can avoid wondering about the role our food supply plays in the increases. Is organic boxed mac and cheese ridiculous? Yes. I don't buy boxed products and I'd be no more inclined to buy the "organic" package than the other. And apparently good farmer Bill Spencer finds little or no residual pesticides in his lemons. Fine, I can understand that in some areas of the food chain it's a less significant problem than in others, and in fact I buy conventionally produced citrus without worrying about it. But lemons isn't lettuce, and as Thomas pointed out the spinach problem came from the processing, not the growing. For softer, more absorbent crops like the greens we eat, I go out of my way to buy organic. Ditto chicken and other meats every chance I get, they not only help me stack the deck in Bob's favor, they are better tasting meats.

Because I have the same questions Jo Ann does about what organic actually means, I am inclined to distrust that it always means what I hope it means just as I distrust giant agribusiness when they try to convince me that all conventionally produced food is safe. Ergo, I also subscribe to Stuart's admonition about fresh and local. So, fresh, local and organic is the best of the best, and when less than all three is not possible I decide depending on the item.
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Re: Organics

by Rahsaan » Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:49 am

I agree that looking at the actual food is the best method of deciding what to purchase rather than looking at the labels.

However, in my experience the best food (as with the best wine) is often organic. Although that does not mean all organic food is good, as evidenced by the 95%plus that is just marketing rubbish. But as with wine, who cares about the 95%plus.
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by Hoke » Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:54 am

Whenever organics is discussed, there's debate from both sides. As there should be. Unfortunately, what with oxen being gored, livelihoods being threatened, and philosophies being challenged, the debate usually descends immediately to name-calling, angry outbursts, side-taking, and cessation of thought. On both sides, I will hasten to add.

Bill, with his ethical stance being attacked and his livelihood threatened, naturally responds based on the information he knows, and since he is an intelligent and ethical man (and a generally nice guy who's not out to harm anyone or rip them off) devoted to growing good quality fruit, responds with anger and arguments.

While neither angry nor emotional, but leaning towards the tenets of organic agriculture, I would comment (respectfully), that I see nothing wrong whatever with a movement that embraces (1) eliminating synthetically produced pesticides and herbicides from the farming cycle, especially in light of the discoveries that past chemical use has resulted in both harm to the consumers as well as harm to the ecology; (2) building good, healthy, biodiverse soils and good, healthy, plants that together resist disease and pests; and (3) recycling as much as possible while focusing on controlling energy use needed to produce a crop.

Bill uses the word "conventional"---in big bold capital letters too--to describe the way he farms. Unfortunately, this "conventional" way---a misnomer if ever I heard one--goes back only to the middle of the Twentieth Century, specifically, until the area following the two world wars, and is a direct result of the industries established by the wars (munitions and poisons, mostly, the old military-industrial complex).

Naturally enough, when you're a farmer and you're presented with the means to miraculously increase your product yield by 1000%, you're going to be interested. You don't stop to think...at that point...that relying on strictly external 'quick fixes' might either deplete the soil nutrients, lower the ability of the plants to resist diseases/pests, and possibly pollute the land or water over a long period of time. (An aside: organic farmers are already struggling with this potentialy Damoclean sword of abundance. They now have offered, from the megacorps who smell money, new organically-approved herbicides/pesticides. But the 'true believers' of organics are worried that this is simply another 'quick fix' of 'input substitution' and undercuts the basic principles of being good stewards of the land.)

I would like to see a way...a middle way...to move away from 'conventional' farming more towards sustainable farming (which may in whole or part...OR PART...necessarily embrace organic and biodynamic principles). In other words, unlike our current President, we'll have to "do nuance" and consider shades other than stark black or white, sift through the evidence, filter out the noise from the big business interests and advertising mavens, and try to come to a middle way which incorporates a reasonable compromise between two radically opposed forces.

Meanwhile, I will, like most people around here, continue to buy locally produced foods as much as possible, organics when I can, and try to limit my purchase of heavily processed foods, 'empty' foods, or foods shipped from the other side of the world.
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Re: Organics -- Medical review article -- Long

by Randy Buckner » Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:44 pm

Here is what I believe to be an excellent review article on organic foods vs. conventional foods, without any histrionics. It answers many of my questions -- maybe it will do so for all of you as well. Sorry the pagenation is a little sloppy, but I'm too lazy to change it. :)

INTRODUCTION — Organically grown foods are foods that are grown or processed without the use of synthetic fertilizers or pesticides [1-5]. Organic farmers attempt to protect the environment by using natural matter (eg, aged manure, humus, and compost) for fertilizer and biological methods of pest control (eg, crop rotation and natural insect predators like lady bugs) [2,4,6]. Livestock and poultry used for egg, dairy, and meat production are raised on organically grown feed and without antibiotics or hormones [6].

The standards for growing and labeling organic food may vary depending upon the certifying organization or agency. The World Health Organization (WHO) and the Food and Agriculture Organization [7], as well as the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) of the United States have adopted or proposed guidelines for the production, processing, labeling, and marketing of organic foods in an attempt to ensure that all foods that are labeled organic meet the same minimum standards.

As of October 21, 2002, food that is labeled "organic" in the United States must meet the standards of the USDA. The USDA organic seal indicates that a food is at least 95 percent organic; however, the use of this seal is voluntary. Products with less than 70 percent organic ingredients may list individual organically produced ingredients on the side panel, but may not claim to be organic on the front of the package [8].

Consumer demand for organic foods has grown steadily during the past decade [6,9]. Organic foods are available increasingly in supermarkets and chain food stores [4,6,10,11]. Although organic foods accounted for only 1.8 percent of national food sales in 2003, organic farming is one of the fastest growing segments of American agriculture. Producers, exporters, and retailers are struggling to meet consumer demand for a wide range of organic food products [6]. By 2010, sales of organic foods are estimated to rise to 3.5 percent of total retail food sales in the United States [6].

According to the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA), the area of farmland devoted to organic crop production more than doubled between 1990 and 2005, increasing from 1 million acres to 2.3 million acres. Currently, certified organic farmland is found in all 50 states [12].
Several large food companies (eg, Sunrise cereal from General Mills Company) have begun to market organic products.
The value of retail sales of organic foods was approximately $10 billion in 2003. Sales of organic foods are estimated to rise to $24 billion by 2010 (approximately 20 percent annually) [6]. Fresh produce (fruits and vegetables) are the top-selling organic category (93 percent in 2003), followed by nondairy beverages, breads and grains, packaged foods, and dairy products [4,6].
The increased demand for organically grown food can be attributed to [1,2,4-6,11,13,14]:

Concern about the nutritional adequacy of foods grown by conventional agriculture
Concern that pesticides and chemical fertilizers have adverse health effects
Concern about environmental effects of pesticides and chemical fertilizers
Demand for food purity has increased despite governmental assurances that the American food supply is one of the safest in the world [11,15]. Organically grown foods are promoted and perceived by consumers to be healthier than conventionally grown foods [9,13,16].

Pediatric healthcare providers should be prepared to help the parents of their patients make informed decisions regarding the purchase and consumption of organic foods.

NUTRITION — Advocates of organic foods claim that organically grown foods are nutritionally superior to foods grown with conventional agriculture methods that use chemical fertilizers [2,11,13,17]. Many people believe that commercial fertilizers lack some nutrients that are present in "natural" organic fertilizers. They argue that "natural" fertilizers are better able to nourish plants and thus result in more nutritious foods [11].

The nutrient content of a plant is determined by several factors, including the genetic makeup, climate and soil conditions, maturity at harvest, storage, and distribution time [2,18]. Nitrogen, potassium, and phosphorous, the main soil nutrients required by crops, must be present in sufficient amounts for plants to grow [19].

Fertilization enriches soil by providing the necessary nutrients. It does not matter whether organic or synthetic fertilizers are used as long as all of the essential nutrients are provided [19]. Synthetic fertilizers are formulated to meet this requirement. Organic fertilizers may or may not. Organic fertilizers (typically manure) must be converted to soluble mineral salts by soil bacteria before they can be utilized by plants [19]. Manure breakdown cannot be synchronized with crop growth. In addition, the nutrient benefit of manure is unpredictable because its composition varies [3].

Nutrient-deficient soil affects crop yields to a greater extent than does nutritional value [18]. The nutritional value of organically and conventionally grown foods usually are similar; however, organic vegetables may have lower nitrate and protein content [1,5,20].

COST — Organically grown foods may cost 50 to 100 percent more than conventionally grown foods [6,21], the reasons for which include [3,22]:

The smaller supply; organic farmers are fewer and crop yields and smaller
The increased labor intensity of growing food without synthetic pesticides and chemicals
FOOD SAFETY — Three areas of food safety to consider when comparing organic and conventionally grown foods are microbial infection, natural toxins, and pesticide use.

Microbial infection — Microbial infection is the main cause of food-related illness [23]. Young children are particularly vulnerable because of the immaturity of their immune systems [24,25]. Escherichia coli (E. coli) 0157:H7, Salmonella, Listeria monocytogenese, and Campylobacter jejuni are the major pathogens of foodborne illness [25]. (See "Food poisoning in children", section on Common and emerging microbial agents).

Foods, whether organically or conventionally grown, can become contaminated by fertilization with raw manure, irrigation of crops with contaminated water, or inadvertent contact with fecal matter during handling or processing. Illness caused by E. coli O157:H7, for example, has been linked to fresh-pressed apple juice and cider [5,26]. Pasteurization, canning, and freezing help to prevent illness caused by Salmonella, E. coli, Campylobacter, and Listeria monocytogenes contamination [27,28]. An increasing number of major food-borne disease outbreaks have been linked to consumption of fecal contamination of fresh or minimally processed produce [11,29-32].

The prevention of foodborne illness requires safe food handling practices for both organic and conventional foods. These measures include (show table 1):

Thoroughly cooking meat
Storing foods at appropriate temperatures
Preventing cross-contamination from meats and poultry to other foods
Keeping hands, tools, and kitchen surfaces clean
Natural toxins — Some foods, whether organically or conventionally grown, contain naturally occurring toxins: aflatoxins in peanuts and grains, solanine in green parts of potatoes, goitrogens in some raw vegetables, and other poisons in mushrooms and herbs [11]. Most of these naturally occurring toxins are harmless when eaten in small amounts as part of a healthy diet [11]. As with pesticides, "poison" is a matter of dose [33].

Pesticides — Much of the debate about organic and conventional agriculture centers on the use of pesticides. Promoters of organic foods suggest that the pesticides used in commercial farming are detrimental to food safety and health [14]. Surveys show that individuals who purchase organic foods believe that pesticides, at any level of exposure, are hazardous to health, food safety, and the environment, and that something must be done to reduce this risk [23,34,35].

Many people are frightened by reports that lack scientific peer review. Media attention may perpetuate this misinformation. In 1989, for example, the media portrayed alar, a growth regulator used mainly on apples, as a potent cancer-causing threat to children. As a result, apples and apple products treated with alar were destroyed and alar was voluntarily withdrawn from the domestic market. However, many health authorities, including the Surgeon General and the American Medical Association, issued statements that alar poses no risk to the public's health when used in the approved, regulated fashion [23].

Organic foods contain synthetic pesticide residues, but they usually are present in smaller amounts than in conventionally grown foods [5,36,37]. Cross-contamination by wind and groundwater may account for the pesticide residues found on organically grown foods because organic farmers avoid the use of synthetic pesticides [11,15,38,39]. In addition, all plants produce toxins ("natural pesticides") that protect them from fungi, insects, and predators [11,40,41]. Plant varieties that have been developed to be naturally pest-resistant may contain increased amounts of natural pesticides and have adverse health effects [11,42].

Benefits — Careful and judicious use of pesticides permits a more abundant food supply. Pesticides increase crop yields and affordability of fruits and vegetables throughout the year. They also may prolong shelf life and retard mold growth [43].

Adverse effects — Potential adverse effects from too much exposure to a pesticide range from mild symptoms of dizziness and nausea to serious, long-term neurologic, developmental, and reproductive disorders.

Compared to adults, infants and young children have different levels of risk for adverse effects of pesticides. Several reasons are [23,44-48]:

Children eat relatively more food (particularly fruits and vegetables) per unit of body weight than do adults.
Children tend to eat large quantities of single foods for days or weeks on end.
Children's behaviors, such as playing on the floor and placing hands and objects in their mouths, may increase exposures to pesticides.
A child's developing organ systems may be more susceptible to the effects of pesticides (eg, nervous system) or less able to clear the metabolites (eg, renal).
Infants and children may have unique exposure pathways such as through the placenta and through breast milk.
Exposure in utero — Effects of pesticides may depend on the developmental stage when exposure occurs [49]. There is some evidence from animal studies that in utero exposure to organophosphate (OP) pesticides at high doses may affect neurodevelopment and growth in the offspring [50,51]. The few studies that have focused specifically on pesticide exposure of children in utero indicate that OP pesticides are transferred to the developing fetus during pregnancy [52-55].

Studies about associations between maternal pesticide exposure and fetal growth have conflicting results. In one study of an urban cohort of pregnant women and newborns in Manhattan, measurements of OP pesticides (chlorpyrifos and diazinon) were inversely associated with both birth weight and length prior to 2001 [56,57]. The adverse association between OP exposure and fetal growth disappeared within a year of the EPA regulatory action to phase out these pesticides. Conversely, in a birth cohort in California, maternal organochlorine exposure was not associated with birth weight, length, or length of gestation [58].

Women living in agricultural communities appear to have higher levels of exposure to pesticides. Urinary metabolites of OP pesticides were measured during pregnancy and after delivery in 600 women residing in an agricultural community in California [53]. Metabolite levels during pregnancy and postpartum were higher in this population than in a sample of women of childbearing age in the general U.S. population. The differences were more pronounced at the post-partum measurement, when levels were 2.5 times higher than in the reference population. These findings may have implications for estimating dose of exposure during pregnancy and lactation.

There is some evidence supporting an association between OP exposure and alterations in neonatal neurobehavior [59]. In the cohort described above, neonatal neurobehavior was assessed with the Brazelton Neonatal Behavioral Assessment Scale (BNBAS), and in utero and early postnatal OP exposure was measured by urinary OP metabolites. The study revealed a correlation between prenatal urinary metabolite levels and abnormal reflexes in the infants. However, no detrimental assocations were found between postnatal urinary metabolite levels and any of the neurodevelopmental measures.

Exposure in childhood — Most evidence indicates that traces of pesticide residues in foods are not a problem for most people [60]. However, data are limited regarding the toxicologic consequences of exposure to pesticide residue during infancy and early childhood [61].

Children who live in agricultural settings may be exposed to higher levels of OP pesticides than their urban counterparts [62-65]. Children of farmworkers may be exposed to pesticides tracked into their homes by household members, by pesticide drift, by playing in contaminated areas, or through breastmilk from their farmworker mother [49]. Researchers in Washington State found that the median metabolite pesticide levels in 109 preschool children of agricultural workers were five times higher than in those in a reference population [66]. Studies are currently examining the effectiveness of interventions to reduce pesticide exposure to this population, including education of parents in pesticide safety and to remove contaminated shoes and clothing before entering the home, and to keep children away from pesticide-treated areas [64,67].

Pesticide regulation — Use of pesticide is regulated strictly by three federal agencies: the EPA, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), and the USDA [68].

The EPA establishes a tolerance for all pesticides that are registered and approved for use in the United States [69]. Tolerance is defined as the legal limit of a pesticide residue allowed in or on a raw agricultural commodity and, in appropriate cases, on processed foods [61]. The pesticide tolerance for various crops or chemicals can be obtained from the EPA's Web site: http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/food/viewtols.htm.

The EPA uses toxicity data from animal studies that attempt to mimic human exposure (eg, continuous low-level ingestion) to determine tolerance levels. Multigenerational animal studies are used to determine the pesticide's effects on reproduction, pregnancy, and lactation [70].

If studies suggest that children may be harmed by exposure to a pesticide, the EPA does not approve the pesticide's use or requires action to reduce the potential risks. Examples for which consideration for the health of infants and children affected decisions include (pmep.cce.cornell.edu/issues/foodsafety-issues.html):

The tolerances for the pesticide pydrin on alfalfa and sorghum were not approved In 1985 because of concern regarding risks to children from secondary residues in milk.
The EPA limited the use of two organophosphate pesticides, methyl parathion and azinphos methyl, in 1999.
Another organophosphate pesticide, chlopyrifos (Dursban), was banned in 2000.
In 2001, the EPA began to phase out diazinon, one of the most widely used organophosphate pesticides [71].
In 1993, the National Research Council (NRC) issued a report on pesticides in the diets of infants and children [61]. The report concluded that children may be exposed to relatively larger amounts of certain pesticide residues than are adults and that the exposure occurs at a vulnerable point in their development. It acknowledged the need for reassessment of pesticide tolerances that would apply specifically to infants and children and recommended the collection of data that would more accurately reflect the dietary patterns of children and the effects of pesticide exposure in infants and children [44,46,61].

The NRC report triggered passage of the Food Quality Protection Act (FQPA) in 1996. The FQPA required the EPA to review and reassess all existing pesticide tolerances to make them safer for infants and children by 2006 [72,73]. The FQPA required the EPA to apply an additional 10-fold margin of safety to its pesticide assessments to address the potential for pre- and postnatal toxicity and to compensate for gaps or inadequacies in the available database regarding potential health risks to infants and children [74-76]. The EPA is required to apply the 10-fold safety factor unless there are reliable data to support use of a different safety factor to protect infants and children [46,75,77].

As of August 3, 2006, the EPA had completed 9637, or more than 99 percent, of the planned tolerance reassessments; the remaining tolerance reassessment cases are to be completed by October 3, 2008. The tolerance reassessment process has led to EPA decisions to revoke or modify thousands of existing tolerances (3200 and 1200, respectively), and to require the establishment of many new tolerances, improving food safety and health protection. The new tolerances also ensure that pesticides used on foods meet the stringent FQPA safety standards [78].

Tolerance levels are enforced by the USDA for meat and poultry and by the FDA for all other foods. The FDA specifically analyzes for pesticide residues all foods eaten by infants and children. As an example, pesticide residues on apples, bananas, oranges, pears, grape and orange juice, and milk were monitored by the FDA between 1985 and 1991 [68,79,80]. More than 10,000 food samples were analyzed before processing and without washing or peeling. Fifty samples (0.5 percent) were in violation (0.3 percent of domestic products and 0.6 percent of imports). The majority of these violations occurred because the pesticide was not approved for use on that particular food.

The FDA monitors nutritional concerns, including pesticide exposure, through the Total Diet Study. This study examines 234 foods selected to typify the American diet. Between 1985 and 1991, analysis of these foods revealed:

No residues were found in infant formulas
No residues over the EPA tolerance or FDA action level were found in any of the "market basket" foods
Low levels of malathion were found in some cereals
Low levels of thiabendazole, a post-harvest fungicide, were found on some fruits and fruit products
The Total Diet Study findings for 2003 were consistent with previous FDA reports in that pesticide residues were below regulatory standards. An adjunct survey of baby foods also provided evidence of only small amounts of pesticide residues between 1991 and 2003 [81].

Reduction of exposure — Most pesticides begin to break down soon after application with exposure to sunlight and rain; they continue to break down after harvest [82]. Additional pesticide reduction can be achieved through washing, peeling, cooking, or processing of foodstuffs [68].

As an example, in the FDA monitoring described above, the highest residue level of the fungicide thiabendazole in raw apples was 2 parts per million (ppm), in apple juice was 0.08 ppm, and in applesauce was 0.06 ppm. The established tolerance is 10 ppm [68].

Canned or frozen fruits and vegetables are alternatives to fresh fruits and vegetables for individuals concerned about pesticide residues. Most current food preservation techniques minimize the loss of nutritive value and are safe and well standardized [83]. One comparative analysis of fresh, frozen, and canned vegetables conducted by the University of Illinois found that canned foods are nutritionally equivalent to their fresh and frozen counterparts [84].

Organic diets appear to reduce OP exposure in children. In one study of a group of 39 preschool-aged children in Washington State, children consuming a conventional diet had urinary dimethyl OP metabolites six to nine times higher than children consuming an organic diet [85]. In another study, the short-term effects of changing to an organic diet were measured in 23 school-aged children [86]. After only 24 to 48 hours of the organic diet, urinary OP metabolites (malathion and chloropyrifos) decreased to nondetectable levels. However, whether this reduction of urinary OP metabolites has any relevance to health outcomes has not been shown.

SUMMARY — "Organically grown" refers to the methods used to grow and process agricultural products (eg, fruits, vegetables, dairy, meat, and poultry) and is not related to nutritional quality or food safety [1,5,11]. Both organic and conventional farming supply nutritious foods when selected as part of a well-balanced diet [11,15,87].

Factors to consider when deciding whether to use organic products include:

Organic foods are not free of synthetic pesticide residues, but probably contain smaller amounts than are present on conventionally grown foods. Thus, organically grown foods provide an alternative source of fruits and vegetables for individuals who are concerned about synthetic pesticides. (See "Reduction of exposure" above).
Infants and children may be more susceptible to the adverse effects of pesticides than are adults. (See "Exposure in utero" above, and see "Exposure in childhood" above).
In general, the traces of pesticide residue that are found in food pose little threat to human health. Potential adverse effects of pesticide exposure on special populations include neurologic, developmental, and reproductive disorders. (See "Exposure in utero" above and see "Adverse effects" above).
Populations involved in agricultural work have higher levels of pesticide exposure, but evidence of adverse effects of such exposure levels is limited. (See "Exposure in utero" above and see "Exposure in childhood" above).
Pesticides help to maintain an abundant and varied food supply. Pesticide use is regulated by the EPA and enforced by the USDA and the FDA. Efforts are being made to ensure that these regulations are appropriate for infants and children. (See "Pesticide regulation" above).
Exposure to pesticide residue in either organic or conventionally grown food can be reduced through washing, peeling, cooking, or processing of foods. (See "Reduction of exposure" above).
Organic food production does not eliminate the risk of foodborne illness, and "organic" should not be interpreted as meaning "safe". (See "Microbial infection" above).
Organic farming supports smaller, family-owned farms and may be more environmentally friendly [5].
RECOMMENDATIONS — Despite the possible risks of pesticide residues, the American Academy of Pediatrics, American Dietetic Association, the American Medical Society, and the American Cancer Society recommend a diet that is rich in fruits and vegetables, with between five and nine servings of these foods daily [88-90].

Irrespective of the food production system, food safety measures are important [5]. The following steps can be taken to reduce exposure to foodborne pathogens and pesticides:

Buy the freshest foods available. They will have the best taste and highest nutrient (ie, vitamin) content.
Consider using frozen or canned fruits and vegetables as an alternative or supplement to fresh produce. These foods maintain most of their nutritional value and may also reduce pesticide exposure as compared to fresh produce.
Eat a variety of foods to ensure a balanced nutritional intake and to lessen contamination from any one source.
Select produce that is free of dirt, insect holes, mold, or decay. (See "Natural toxins" above).
Always wash fruits and vegetables thoroughly with a dish brush.
Do not use soap or other detergents.
Peel fruits and vegetables before eating and throw away the outer leaves of leafy vegetables. Some nutrients and fiber may be lost when produce is peeled.
Trim fat from meat and skin from poultry and fish because some pesticide residues are concentrated in fat.
Make sure that apple juice and cider are pasteurized, to reduce the risk of food-borne illness such as E.Coli 0157 [25,91]. (See "Microbial infection" above).
Additional information about food safety is available from the USDA and FDA Food Safety Web sites [92,93].



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