Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
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Carrie L.
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Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:12 am
Extreme Southwest & Extreme Northeast
Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
The Pacific Northest Westest
Kyrstyn Kralovec
Wine guru
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Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:50 pm
Washington DC, Oregon bound
Carrie L. wrote:1) Hanger Steak which is a unique cut of sirloin (I think?)
Gary Barlettano
Pappone di Vino
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Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:50 pm
In a gallon jug far, far away ...
Bernard Roth wrote:Knowing Randy's background, I'd have to say that many of the suggestions above are pretty passe.
Robin's tapas is a dining concept that peaked about 2 years ago and has leveled off.
A trend that been hot as of a year ago and still seems to be growing is Wagyu beef (aka Kobe). More and more restaurants are putting it on the menu, sometimes in more than one dish. When you are in Santa Barbara, I can take you to Square One for Kobe Beef two ways - steak and short ribs. It's a pretty tasty dish.
Robin Garr wrote:It's absolutely wrong to call it Kobe, by the way. Kobe is from Japan, period, and is rarely if ever exported to the US. Wagyu is made in Texas by a similar process. A lot of US eateries bill Wagyu as "Kobe," but this is as wrong as using "Burgundy" or "Chablis" to label a generic domestic wine.
John Tomasso wrote:I always point it out to operators when I see them using the term Kobe incorrectly, diplomatically, of course.
Mike Filigenzi
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Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:43 pm
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Carl K wrote:I'll weigh in with Jenise on the Ceasar Salad thing. Hell, I even saw a premade "Chicken Ceasar Salad" being offered in the cafateria at work last week. And I'm sorry, but that "made fresh daily" thing doesn't mean a whole lot at 1:00 in the morning which is what time I normally get to eat lunch.
Paul Winalski
Wok Wielder
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:16 pm
Merrimack, New Hampshire
Taze Rowe wrote:In NYC:
At general restaurants:
7. Burgers in general, but especially "sliders" (small, almost bite-sized burgers).
Bill Spohn
He put the 'bar' in 'barrister'
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:31 pm
Vancouver BC
Jenise wrote:The one thing I have noticed is that Caesar salad is becoming ridiculously pervasive. Not the real deal made tableside, but romaine tossed in some creamy pre-made dressing
Paul Winalski
Wok Wielder
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:16 pm
Merrimack, New Hampshire
Bill Spohn wrote:Jenise wrote:The one thing I have noticed is that Caesar salad is becoming ridiculously pervasive. Not the real deal made tableside, but romaine tossed in some creamy pre-made dressing
I always ask if the Caesar salad is 'real'. I end up sending half of it back, usually for no anchovy. I often het an excuse "Many people don't like anchovy" To which I reply "Would you bring me a hamburger without a patty becauee many people are vegetarians? A Caesar salad is a recipe, done one basic way. If you don't make it that way, you should stop the misleading advertising by calling it something else!"
I know it is a losing battle......right along with ordering fish and chips only to find that a response "Yes, we make it here" includes them dumping prefab frozen fish fingers into hot oil.
Are there no standards any more??
Robin Garr wrote:This may vary regionally, Bernie. Tapas are still fresh here, while Wagyu beef has been around for five years or more and, if not "passé," is hardly novel.
It's absolutely wrong to call it Kobe, by the way. Kobe is from Japan, period, and is rarely if ever exported to the US. Wagyu is made in Texas by a similar process. A lot of US eateries bill Wagyu as "Kobe," but this is as wrong as using "Burgundy" or "Chablis" to label a generic domestic wine.
Bernard Roth wrote:Sure, and in 10 years we may start to see Tapas appear in Peoria. But since Randy is going to be in Santa Barbara, I thought I'd speak to his situation.
The tapas thing came here 6-7 years ago, albeit not really authentic. The small plates thing was tried at Quantum, which closed and reopened with a new formula. The original Tapas place in SB - Alcazar - actually serves small Mexican, not Spanish, plates. In truth, a lot of LA restaurants and wine bars are jumping on the trendwagon, so the popularity is indeed growing. But it is not what I would call a craze.
RE: Kobe beef. I guess I'm more sympathetic to the need of restaurants to be market savvy and speak to their clientele in familiar language. I am tolerant of referring to the beef by its Japanese name as long as the restaurant is forthright about the origin of the beef.
even though Wagyu was introduced to US markets a few years ago, it in no way became an immediate trend. There simply was too little Wagyu to go around until US ranchers began to catch up. The growth in production is feeding a "craze". This is what Randy asked about.
Out of curiousity, if you go to a deli, do you ask if they use real Swiss cheese on their Reuben? Do you chastise them if their "Dijon" mustard is really made in America with Canadian seeds?
Bill Spohn wrote:I end up sending half of it back, usually for no anchovy.
John Tomasso wrote:You know, Cesar Cardini's original recipe does not contain anchovy.
Robin Garr wrote:John Tomasso wrote:You know, Cesar Cardini's original recipe does not contain anchovy.
If I'm not mistaken, it contained Worcestershire sauce, which does contain anchovy.
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