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Grocery shopping

by Jenise » Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:46 am

I can't find everything I want and need in a traditional grocery store.

Yesterday I left home and went due east across I-5 on Birch Bay Lynden road to the Grace Harbor Goat Farm in Custer for fresh farm eggs. She also had, strangely, pea shoots. I bought some of those too.

From there we drove south into Bellingham and dropped in at Bodega Neto's for fresh, warm tortillas and some Mexican pastry. The tortillas, made fresh daily, are kept in plastic bags, three dozen in each, still steamy and warm in an insulated chest near the checkout stand. And my god I love the pastries--barely sweet, dry, very little in the way of goop or fillings. They are the sweets born of a poor people who lacked refrigeration and access to luxury goods, the very opposite of a French patissierie, and I adore them. I bought four.

From there to a doctor's appointment for Bob a mile away.

Afterward, Bob asked for a hamburger at Wendy’s about two miles north of the doctor's office which is conveniently near the India Mart. So India Mart I went, and there I stocked up on what is for me has become an addiction--golden raisins. But not just any, they're the best raisins I’ve ever had, in fact I've never been a fan until these. I bought three 1.5 pound bags. They're made up of about 10 beautiful shades of gold, green and orange-y brown, much tangier, less sweet and chewier than conventional supermarket raisins. A super healthy snack and also good for adding to Bob’s morning cereal. There I also bought three-inch diameter carrots (intensely flavored things, and something I only see in Asian markets), ginger, some broccoli rabe, dry black eyed peas to insure I always have at least one dry bean in the pantry, and some frozen flat breads that are like an Indian pupusa but stuffed with cauliflower, potatoes and spices.

From there we went direction home with a stop at a conventional grocery store for conventional cow milk for my dinner souffles (we only have Oat Milk for Bob's cereal, rarely use milk for anything else) and ground turkey for the albondigas soup I plan to make today.

Then on to the house, with one Oops! where I turned around and backtracked a mile to a tiny neighborhood market on the Bay for cilantro. This market exists more to sell cheap wine, beer, snack foods that go with beer and crabbing licenses to tourists than food. But time-share or VRBO clients cruising into town late and empty-handed can always grab some fresh essentials for dinner or breakfast: butter, steak, milk, bacon, eggs, bread and iceberg lettuce. The only other fresh produce, and bless their hearts they ALWAYS have them, is everything needed to make a fresh salsa including tomatoes, fresh jalapenos and cilantro. I don't picture the beer people going to that kind of trouble, but they must.

This is a pretty typical shopping day for me. I rarely make a list, nor do I set aside one day a week to buy a week's worth of food at a conventional grocer like most people I know. I shop on the way to and from other errands, and it's rare that I can find the things I want and quality I need all in one place. It would be a sad world if I had to settle for Sunmaid Raisins (in fact, I wouldn't) and Mission brand tortillas.
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Re: My shopping day yesterday

by Paul Winalski » Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:39 pm

Jenise wrote:and some frozen flat breads that are like an Indian pupusa but stuffed with cauliflower, potatoes and spices

Parathas?

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Re: My shopping day yesterday

by Jenise » Thu Feb 13, 2025 1:45 pm

Yes, those. Haven't tried these before, but if they're good would be a great thing to have on hand.
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Re: My shopping day yesterday

by Jeff Grossman » Fri Feb 14, 2025 1:43 am

"The Life and Times of A Modern Hunter-Gatherer" by Jenise Stone. :lol:
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Re: My shopping day yesterday

by Rahsaan » Fri Feb 14, 2025 8:43 am

Jenise wrote:And this is typical. I can't find everything I want and need in a traditional grocery store...


Most definitely. Although in my case there is also a bit of principle involved. Even though I go to a grocery store (WF), 2-3 times per week, I try to buy as little from them as possible. In part because of the Amazon ownership, but also because I would rather support farmers and direct specialty shops, which are typically higher quality as well. So I buy as much as possible directly from the farmers market, and then look to all the small local specialty shops, and then plug in the rest of the holes with grocery store items.
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Re: My shopping day yesterday

by Dale Williams » Fri Feb 14, 2025 2:59 pm

I end up hitting a lot of places too.

Every weekend I go to farmers market (May-Nov both Sat and Sun, my 2 local markets alternate weekends in winter).
At least once a week HMart, and Apple Farm, a greengrocer with a fish market in back. Couple times a month the Chinese market and the Indian market. Probably the same for Battaglia's (Italian).
Probably once a month the Middle Eastern (Arabic) market & Trader Joes. There's also an Armenian market (lots of Mediterranean products)
And I go to supermarkets (various) every week.
Occasional trips to Persian, Japanese, and Mexican markets.
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Re: My shopping day yesterday

by Rahsaan » Fri Feb 14, 2025 3:36 pm

Dale Williams wrote:Every weekend I go to farmers market (May-Nov both Sat and Sun, my 2 local markets alternate weekends in winter).
At least once a week HMart, and Apple Farm, a greengrocer with a fish market in back. Couple times a month the Chinese market and the Indian market. Probably the same for Battaglia's (Italian).
Probably once a month the Middle Eastern (Arabic) market & Trader Joes. There's also an Armenian market (lots of Mediterranean products)
And I go to supermarkets (various) every week.
Occasional trips to Persian, Japanese, and Mexican markets.


You've got me beat on the range!

My core rotation is farmers market 4x per week, Murray's cheese 1 or 2x per week, fresh Chinese tofu shop once per week, HMart every two weeks, Kalyustans every three weeks, and then (reluctantly) Whole Foods 2/3x per week.
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Re: My shopping day yesterday

by Jeff Grossman » Fri Feb 14, 2025 3:40 pm

Rahsaan wrote:
Jenise wrote:And this is typical. I can't find everything I want and need in a traditional grocery store...


Most definitely. Although in my case there is also a bit of principle involved. Even though I go to a grocery store (WF), 2-3 times per week, I try to buy as little from them as possible. In part because of the Amazon ownership, but also because I would rather support farmers and direct specialty shops, which are typically higher quality as well. So I buy as much as possible directly from the farmers market, and then look to all the small local specialty shops, and then plug in the rest of the holes with grocery store items.

This is approximately my planning, too. Greenmarkets first, then specialty shops, then grocers. (There is no Whole Foods near me and, honestly, I'm not that impressed with them: I visit one near work occasionally and their selection is broad, for sure, but is it really top notch?)
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Re: My shopping day yesterday

by Rahsaan » Fri Feb 14, 2025 3:54 pm

Jeff Grossman wrote:There is no Whole Foods near me and, honestly, I'm not that impressed with them: I visit one near work occasionally and their selection is broad, for sure, but is it really top notch?


Who said anything about top notch!

If there were a smaller independent grocery store with high quality/organic products, I would shop there. But around here, those types of places are even more INSANELY priced. I mainly go to WF for the fruit I can't get from the farmers market and pantry staples. Thankfully I don't need to buy produce from them. Overall WF is cheaper/better than Gristedes and the like, better quality than TJ and Wegmans, although I also go to the latter.

When we're traveling, I must admit that Whole Foods is a welcome sight for something approaching nourishing food and staples, because I get tired of restaurants VERY quickly.
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Re: My shopping day yesterday

by Jenise » Fri Feb 14, 2025 6:13 pm

Rahsaan wrote:Most definitely. Although in my case there is also a bit of principle involved...I would rather support farmers and direct specialty shops, which are typically higher quality as well.


Yes, THIS.

I typically only end up at the big grocer to, as one of you put it, plug in the holes. My #1 shopping destination is our two local Food Co-Ops because produce, and local if available, is my highest priority. The quality and variety is the best in town.

We do have a WF but I'm rarely there. I end up there when I'm low on a few things only they carry, like roasted peanut oil, a fave for dressing the salads we eat daily. I can always get maitake mushrooms there, too. And they have the best cheese department. But they really don't excel in produce the way the WF markets I knew in Los Angeles did. And their cheese and seafood departments aren't nearly up to the quality of the WFs I used to patronize in Seattle. That's pre-Amazon; things might have changed though the WF in Vancouver's tony west end is still a Disneyland of opportunity.
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by Karen/NoCA » Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:30 pm

Interesting stories about shopping. I go to the Farmers Market every Saturday when I need produce. The rest of the time I shop our local neighborhood grocer and another one near the airport owned by a family here in town. I love them both. I have a bum knee and after having one knee replaced 5 years ago, I do not want to go through that again. So, I limit myself now to easy in and easy out places. I use Instacart for delivery now and then, and I use Amazon a lot. I have bought from them since they started with a bookstore, they are fast, always accommodating, and have what I want NOW, making my life much easier.
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Re: My shopping day yesterday

by Rahsaan » Sun Feb 16, 2025 5:45 pm

Karen/NoCA wrote:... I have a bum knee and after having one knee replaced 5 years ago, I do not want to go through that again. So, I limit myself now to easy in and easy out places....


I think about that a lot. I'm 48 and have a pretty vigorous shopping routine that involves me cycling around Manhattan with bags on my back/the bike. It works great now, and I always enjoy the extra exercise. But it won't last forever!
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by Mark Lipton » Mon Feb 17, 2025 5:48 pm

Hmmpphh! Y'all need to live a few years in flyover country to really understand the lengths one needs to go to for food purchases. The rise of e-commerce has significantly improved our lot, as my wife is now a semi-regular customer of d'Artagnan and Pike Place market. However, even locally we'll hit the farmers' market during the growing season, and a locally-run butcher shops for chicken, pork, lamb and eggs. Outside of the growing season it's Fresh Thyme (Whole Foods lite) for most of our produce. Staples and packaged goods will usually come from the local Kroger outlet. Asian and Mexican foods we get from local specialty markets. About the only upside is that traffic and distances traveled are less than they would be in a big city.
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by Rahsaan » Mon Feb 17, 2025 9:24 pm

Mark Lipton wrote:Hmmpphh! Y'all need to live a few years in flyover country to really understand the lengths one needs to go to for food purchases...About the only upside is that traffic and distances traveled are less than they would be in a big city.


I did my time in NC! The distances were further than what I would need to travel in Nyc. But e-commerce definitely improved things A LOT.
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Re: My shopping day yesterday

by Jenise » Tue Feb 18, 2025 3:28 pm

I don't buy groceries from Amazon, but while I understand Rahsaan's objection I have to say that given what I'm going thru in my role as caregiver, I'd be absolutely lost without Amazon. Living 20 miles away from town, and a small town at that, the plethora of things I can order, try out and return if unsatisfactory is nothing short of a life saver. And as e-commerce continues to shutter local businesses, for a lot of things we need there is no local option.

But back to groceries, yesterday I piled Bob in the car and made a grocery run to Canada. I loaded up on frozen lobster tails, veal scallops, Maille mustard, imported Italian ham (no smoke flavor, no preservative flavors), Canadian butter, sandwich bread (our favorite for same is Canadian!), tea and a few other things. From there I dropped in at Everything Wine for a six pack of B.C. wine--don't need any, in fact it's foolish to buy more--but most importantly it puts my money where my mouth is. In all, I spent close to $500. A drop in the bucket, but if everybody did that....
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Re: Grocery shopping

by Jenise » Fri Feb 28, 2025 2:49 pm

So yesterday we were in the Whole Foods area of town so I dropped in to pick up some parmesan cheese. I'm running low and this is something I rely on WFM for. Even though the Fred Meyer stores are stocked by Murray's cheese, the parm there is maybe 2 yr old vs. WFM's 3 yr old--which has better texture and more pungence. And parm from Costco or Trader Joe's--don't get me started. Not good enough.

One thing about WFM, they have a different supply chain so produce can vary greatly from what is available elsewhere in town. Yesterday, joy!!!, they had perlette green grapes. Of course, they just call them 'Green Grapes', but IYKYK that at this time of year the small, perfectly spherical, sweet-as-they-are-tangy, and SUPER crunchy perlettes come in from South America. They are my favorite eating grape of all. I stocked up, of course, and also bought the very last Murcot Mandarins I'll see this season. They're also a favorite. They weren't identified as such on the signage, but again: IYKYK.
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