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Ground beef

by Paul Winalski » Tue May 16, 2023 12:50 pm

Fun (fresh Chinese rice noodles) come in folded-up sheets sold in one-pound packages. When sliced up that's enough noodles for two or three dishes. I recently decided to use the last portion from the last package I bought to make a Thai dish: wide rice noodles with a curried ground beef topping. For the beef I used a package of 80% lean (fattiest I could find at the supermarket) grass-fed ground beef.

The dish came out OK except for the texture. The beef was in very fine, almost sandy grains. I rarely buy ground beef--the cuisines I mainly cook don't call for it and I'm not a big hamburger fan, so I don't have much experience with ground beef. I'm thinking that maybe this meat was ground too finely for this application? I buy a lot of ground pork and I noticed that while you can see the individual extruded threads in the ground pork, this package of ground beef was one solid mass. Or maybe I overcooked it?

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Re: Ground beef

by Karen/NoCA » Tue May 16, 2023 1:49 pm

I have been cooking for over 70 years and have never seen ground beef like that. In fact, I always have to use a fork to crumble up the ground beef into smaller pieces as it cooks. Perhaps it was a special grind for a particular application? Or a mistake on the part of the person doing the grinding... I hate the ground beef that is in shreads rather than crumbled, and find that kind hard to break up, but in the end, it always works out OK.
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Re: Ground beef

by Tom NJ » Tue May 16, 2023 2:32 pm

Could you post the recipe you used, or if no recipe then a general description of your procedure?

It's my own personal opinion that you overcooked the beef, as that's one of the most common complaints I have about ground beef recipes which have been served to me. In fact, for a long time it was the most common complaint I had about my own dishes that started with a base of ground beef - chili, bolognese, various Chinese wok dishes, etc., for some time.

I eventually settled on ignoring the instruction to brown the beef first, regardless of recipe. That almost inevitably seems to me to over-cook the beef by the end of the dish. Now I generally just stir the beef over moderate heat briefly, but I don't bring it anywhere near browning before adding other ingredients. This even includes my mom's/grandma's/great-grandma's meatball "That Which Shall Not Be Altered" recipe. I form the meatballs and plunk them raw into the sauce. No pre-browning in a pan or oven. (Er...that's not the only thing I altered, but please don't tell them that!)

I guess you could argue that you lose some flavor component that way, but I don't notice the difference, and more important - it doesn't remind me of eating meat flavored BB's.
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Re: Ground beef

by Jeff Grossman » Tue May 16, 2023 6:25 pm

Piling on... Also sounds to me like over-cooked ground beef. I still like to get a sear on mine but do it in one lump, then proceed carefully.
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Re: Ground beef

by Paul Winalski » Wed May 17, 2023 11:01 am

The recipe indeed did call for browning the ground beef as an initial step. I think overcooking was the problem here. Thanks!

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