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Cornmeal redux

by Larry Greenly » Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:38 pm

Thought I'd revisit cornmeal for a posting or two.

Another cornmeal breakfast item I make fairly frequently is Johnnycakes. It's a nice change from wheat pancakes. FWIW, here's the recipe I've used for decades (which I'm sure is not authentic, but tastes good):

JOHNNYCAKE

1 Tbs sugar
1 tsp salt
1 Tbs butter
1 cup ground cornmeal
1 cup boiling water
1/4 cup milk
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Combine 1st 4 ingredients. Cover with boiling water, stir vigorously till well mixed.
Add milk, mix well.
Drop batter by tablespoons onto hot griddle well greased. Pat to 1/2 in. thickness with oiled spatula.
Cook over med. heat till browned on one side. Put little on top of each and flip over till other side is browned.
Serve hot w/butter and/or syrup.

Note: I usually use a cast-iron oiled Swedish pancake griddle. I also thin the batter with enough milk until it flows easily and fills the pancake griddle depressions.
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Re: Cornmeal redux

by Robin Garr » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:50 am

I mainly use cornmeal for two things, Larry: Cornbread and polenta. I like it, but I rarely incorporate it into other recipes. (Not counting masa for tamales here, or stoneground hominy for serious grits.)

But if you're open to a side discussion, I'll ask: Sugar in cornbread, or no? I'm okay with just a dash to bring up the corn flavor, but never enough to turn it into cake. :P
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Re: Cornmeal redux

by Larry Greenly » Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:15 pm

I'm a northerner, so I put sugar in my cornmeal, but my recipes don't use much. I think it rounds out the flavor.

Once, a southern friend and I compared our corn breads. Hers had no sugar; I thought it tasted a bit bitter. She loved mine (with a little sugar), but informed me she would honor her southern roots and never cook or eat my northern style cornbread.

FWIW, somewhere recently I saw a cornmeal cake with icing recipe. Now in that case, I imagine it would taste sweet like a cake.
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Re: Cornmeal redux

by Jenise » Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:56 pm

I don't like sweet food but I add small amounts of sugar to many things because, as Larry mentioned, it rounds out the flavor. In cornbread or something like these johnnycakes, I also prefer a small amount of sugar. Makes the corn element taste more corn-y. I put 1/4 tsp sugar in my tea too; doesn't taste sweet, but it cuts the edge on the tannins and the tea flavor matches the aroma better.
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Re: Cornmeal redux

by Larry Greenly » Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:31 pm

And, of course, corn itself has some sugars.

Segue: When I worked at state fairs with my uncle 25 yrs ago, we sold a roasted butter-and-cream corn on the cob that was the sweetest, best corn on the grounds. One person returned his ear and demanded a refund: "Corn is supposed to be yellow or white, but not both." Go figure.
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Re: Cornmeal redux

by Jeff Grossman » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:27 pm

Well, I'd certainly avoid corn that was green or blue. Seems like white and yellow are both acceptable colors for kernels.

(Yes, I know about corn smut but it doesn't work with the joke, now does it?)
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Re: Cornmeal redux

by Larry Greenly » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:35 pm

I'm not a purveyor of smut, but I really would like to try huitlacoche sometime.
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Re: Cornmeal redux

by Jeff Grossman » Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:40 pm

I've never cooked with it myself. A friend, SFJoe Dougherty, often did. It's impossible to get fresh in the Northeast so he used canned:
https://woodlandfoods.com/products/huit ... 14?cat=112
Or, when he could prevail on his friend Connie, flash frozen:
https://wineforest.com/pages/wine-fores ... wild-foods

If you convince Wine Forest that you're a chef or wholesaler let me know... I like their wild huckleberries (tasted at Joe's house) and I use their Juniper Rub (one of my favorites) and Wild Rice mix. I also have a bottle of the Elderberry Shrub but haven't really figured out what to do with it yet.
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Re: Cornmeal redux

by Robin Garr » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:24 am

Larry Greenly wrote:I'm not a purveyor of smut, but I really would like to try huitlacoche sometime.

We have a local Mayan restaurant that uses huitlacoche often. I focused a review on it a few years back ... whoa, 13 years back, d'oh!

We like smut. It's good

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