Everything about food, from matching food and wine to recipes, techniques and trends.

Farm to Fable

Moderators: Jenise, Robin Garr, David M. Bueker

no avatar
User

Dale Williams

Rank

Compassionate Connoisseur

Posts

11420

Joined

Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:32 pm

Location

Dobbs Ferry, NY (NYC metro)

Farm to Fable

by Dale Williams » Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:12 am

Interesting report
http://www.tampabay.com/news/farm-to-fa ... ne/2273052

There's a restaurant across the street from my office, and I've often seen the farm van pull up and the guy carry a small pig over his shoulder into Harpers. I think they're pretty upfront. But I've certainly had doubts about supposed local vegetables at some places in NYC when season seemed doubtful
no avatar
User

Peter May

Rank

Pinotage Advocate

Posts

3905

Joined

Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:24 am

Location

Snorbens, England

Re: Farm to Fable

by Peter May » Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:14 am

Excellent well-researched investigation!
no avatar
User

Brian K Miller

Rank

Passionate Arboisphile

Posts

9340

Joined

Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:05 am

Location

Northern California

Re: Farm to Fable

by Brian K Miller » Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:53 pm

Have to confess my naiveté. Had no idea the problem was so pervasive...almost universal. :(
...(Humans) are unique in our capacity to construct realities at utter odds with reality. Dogs dream and dolphins imagine, but only humans are deluded. –Jacob Bacharach
no avatar
User

Rahsaan

Rank

Wild and Crazy Guy

Posts

9420

Joined

Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:20 pm

Location

New York, NY

Re: Farm to Fable

by Rahsaan » Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:53 am

My view has always been that stores/restaurants that make the loudest claims about local/organic/whatever are usually the ones that are the least interesting, because clearly they are doing it as a marketing/branding strategy.

I generally try to seek out the places with intelligent high-quality food, and they inadvertently end up being local/organic/whatever.
no avatar
User

Dale Williams

Rank

Compassionate Connoisseur

Posts

11420

Joined

Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:32 pm

Location

Dobbs Ferry, NY (NYC metro)

Re: Farm to Fable

by Dale Williams » Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:07 am

I feel pretty confident in the local restaurants that have farm to table claims- their menus change constantly (blues and shad roe at appropriate times, ramps and fiddleheads in spring, etc), sources are local and disclosed (and Hudson Valley Duck, Blue Hill, and others know that menu proclaims they are vendors), etc. I've acted as a squash blossom courier before.

And the Hastings market has vendors who are quite public re sources (and Pascale the manager is pretty strict). Fish is from Long Island. All of the produce, meat, cheese etc is local (Hudson Valley, except one pork/chicken vendor has grass fed beef from eastern PA). There are some local vendors of prepared foods (chutneys, peanut butter, pies, breads, etc) that obviously use ingredients that aren't local, but foods are. There is an olive oil producer who brings in bulk from her family in Greece and bottles in Larchmont , but no one is trying to pretend these are Westchester olives. Outside of market around Westchesrer there are smaller one operator "farm stands" that sell things they clearly don't grow (avocados, citrus, bananas) not sure how NY regulates that.
no avatar
User

Jenise

Rank

FLDG Dishwasher

Posts

43584

Joined

Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm

Location

The Pacific Northest Westest

Re: Farm to Fable

by Jenise » Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:11 pm

What a fantastic, well-written article. Thanks, Dale.

I've suspected some project creep must be occurring, but it's actually pretty shocking to see how many restaurants use the actual names of providers who don't even sell to them. (And if it's happening in Tampa, it's everywhere.) Must be especially disturbing to those providers--that's identity theft, of a sort. How do you combat that if you're them?
My wine shopping and I have never had a problem. Just a perpetual race between the bankruptcy court and Hell.--Rogov

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: ClaudeBot and 0 guests

Powered by phpBB ® | phpBB3 Style by KomiDesign