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My indoor gas grill: when hate turns to love

by Jenise » Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:09 pm

Sometimes it takes just the right things to happen in perfect sequence, otherwise one would never: 1) meet the love of one's life, 2) get the job of a lifetime, or 3) fall in love with your gas grill.

I ticked off the other two long ago, but only just fell into #3. And I do mean fell.

The history: bought all-gas Viking pro range for my new kitchen. Ordered the configuration of six burners and an indoor grill. Hired an expert in high-end appliances for the install. Hated the gas grill from day one. It didn't splay the flame/heat, rather, some flame from the two burners that ran the length of the grill would come through and burn a stripe into whatever you had on the grill--meanwhile the rest would hardly brown. I occasionally grilled vegetables on it, but found it pretty useless for anything else. Making things worse, my husband insisted on dismantling it down to the burners to clean it after every use which blew the labor cost-benefit analysis all to hell. I looked into buying a kit to convert it from grill to griddle, but of course this is Viking so such a thing doesn't exist. Oh, and I did call the installer back out to make sure it was installed correctly. And when I had a good repairman out on another occasion, I told him my complaints and had him confirm that nothing more could be done to make it work better. Conclusion: none.

So what happened: in early December I apparently cooked on it, and so Bob dismantled it and cleaned it and this time, took the time he saw a different possibility for re-assembly. He reversed two pieces and had me check that out. It actually did seem to work a bit better on a slice of bread, but I was hardly excited. Then one night we had a local chef here, and he grilled pork on his makeshift wood-fired 'grill'. The pork was this fatty heritage pork he raises on his farm. Later that same night, one of his sous chefs decided to fire up my grill and cook off all the fatty trimmings. I warned him it was useless but undaunted he persisted--and it was magical. Flames everywhere. The pork cooked beautifully and got these lovely, flavorful charred tips.

Look at these flames on last night's dinner!

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If Bob hadn't reversed those pieces, and if the chef hadn't cooked that fatty pork, I'd have never figured out that my grill could do that. I had given up on it so completely I'd have never tested it with anything so spectacular.

Add to the blessings that I can now buy local, organic, heritage pork. A grilled pork chop, shared, is like our new favorite food. I who would cook pork chops occasionally always marinated them pretty fully as most pork is pretty tasteless. But this local pork from Jack Mountain Meats, seasoned with naught but salt and flame? WOW.
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Re: My indoor gas grill: when hate turns to love

by Jeff Grossman » Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:15 am

So much for the top-notch installer and the excellent repairman. Give us an engineer, every time. :D
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by Howie Hart » Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:24 am

I have a 20+ year old Jenn-Air 4-burner. The two burners on the left are configured for either a grill or a griddle. I've used it numerous times in both modes quite successfully.
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Re: My indoor gas grill: when hate turns to love

by Jenise » Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:52 pm

Howie, you mean it turns from one into another, or do you have overlays? This house came with a 4+ Jenn Air, grill on the side. 30 years old, all electric. The cooktop was worn out, but I sure loved the grill. It's what convinced me to select the grill over the griddle option on my Viking, and why by comparison I was so disappointed. I knew it could and should be so much better.
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Re: My indoor gas grill: when hate turns to love

by Jenise » Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:54 pm

Jeff Grossman/NYC wrote:So much for the top-notch installer and the excellent repairman. Give us an engineer, every time. :D


Amen, brother, amen.
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Re: My indoor gas grill: when hate turns to love

by Ted Richards » Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:55 pm

Jenise wrote:Howie, you mean it turns from one into another, or do you have overlays?


I'm not Howie, but his sounds like the Jenn-Air we had. To switch, you lifted out the two regular burners on one side and swapped in a grill unit, which had multiple grill bars, with a small gas burner under each (if I remember correctly). It doesn't sound quite like the one we had, though, since ours was a lemon. The light on the digital controls kept getting so dim that we couldn't read it unless the kitchen was completely dark (not even daylight) - we replaced the control panel 3 times and then gave up. It also had an occasional habit of turning itself off while cooking a roast.

Speaking of pork chops, one of the butchers at the St Lawrence Market, where we shop every week, sells pork rib chops with the pork belly attached. They are absolutely heavenly when brined and sauté/roasted (we brown one side in a cast iron fry pan, flip it over and finish it in the oven). Grilled would probably work even better, but we don't have a grill any more.
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Re: My indoor gas grill: when hate turns to love

by Howie Hart » Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:39 pm

Jenise wrote:Howie, you mean it turns from one into another, or do you have overlays?
It has a gas cooktop and electric oven. Two regular gas burners on the right. On the left are two large, square-ish burners. Over these burners you can place a 2-piece grill or a one piece griddle. I don't have the set of regular burners for the left side, but could buy them online. If I need a 3rd (or 4th) burner, I can place pots or pans on the grill. I've used the griddle for pancakes, etc. and even browning bacon-wrapped pork loin before roasting.
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Re: My indoor gas grill: when hate turns to love

by Bill Spohn » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:40 pm

Jenise wrote:Add to the blessings that I can now buy local, organic, heritage pork.


Funny, I've always preferred fresh to heritage pork.... :twisted:

We are getting to know our new Kitchenaid range (one of the only ones with 4 removable grates that my wife can lift). It is this one, their top of the line 30"

http://www.kitchenaid.ca/en_CA/shop/maj ... ranges-3/-[KDRS407VSS]-2100448/KDRS407VSS/

It has a commercial level 20,000 btu burner and a couple of 15K as well as a simmer burner (5K). I wondered if I'd like that combo but it has turned out to be great (barring one fire alarm due to broiling steaks resulting in enough smoke to set the alarm off). Guess I'll have to sear foie gras outside!

No optional grille insert, but then that wasn't a priority as we always use the BBQ for that.
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Re: My indoor gas grill: when hate turns to love

by Jenise » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:48 pm

Bill Spohn wrote:
Jenise wrote:Add to the blessings that I can now buy local, organic, heritage pork.


Funny, I've always preferred fresh to heritage pork.... :twisted:

We are getting to know our new Kitchenaid range (one of the only ones with 4 removable grates that my wife can lift). It is this one, their top of the line 30"

http://www.kitchenaid.ca/en_CA/shop/maj ... ranges-3/-[KDRS407VSS]-2100448/KDRS407VSS/

It has a commercial level 20,000 btu burner and a couple of 15K as well as a simmer burner (5K). I wondered if I'd like that combo but it has turned out to be great (barring one fire alarm due to broiling steaks resulting in enough smoke to set the alarm off). Guess I'll have to sear foie gras outside!

No optional grille insert, but then that wasn't a priority as we always use the BBQ for that.


What you find when you have that kind of BTU power is not what you can do at high heat (though going in, that's what you expect), but how much control you have at medium and low that you never had before. Welcome to the club!

As for indoor vs. BBQ, you'll probably be surprised to hear me say this but the indoor grilled food actually tastes better. The way the fat catches at close range instead of dropping way down, it catches fire like you see in my picture and burns off slowly. That adds flavor to food you don't get from a typical BBQ--and you grill at Medium heat to get a long slow cook on a one and a half inch pork chop without toughening the meat or having to move the grilled meat to an oven to avoid toughening the meat.

You're going to learn to use that powerful hood, aren't you?

Where's the pics of the new kitchen?
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by Bill Spohn » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:59 pm

Yup - I swear that on overdrive high speed you could toss a hamster up and it would be held against the grille of the exhaust fan. Haven't found a volunteer hamster to test that yet.

Waiting on a few more things before pics - everything painted, moldings etc. Another week or so....(no smiley for crossed fingers).
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Re: My indoor gas grill: when hate turns to love

by Bill Spohn » Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:24 pm

Jenise wrote:
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Jenise wrote:As for indoor vs. BBQ, you'll probably be surprised to hear me say this but the indoor grilled food actually tastes better. The way the fat catches at close range instead of dropping way down, it catches fire like you see in my picture and burns off slowly. That adds flavor to food you don't get from a typical BBQ--and you grill at Medium heat to get a long slow cook on a one and a half inch pork chop without toughening the meat or having to move the grilled meat to an oven to avoid toughening the meat.


Turns out that the Kitchenaid has an optional griddle (which I doubt would be that useful - what do you think - no flame directly on the meat) but no grille.

I could make a grille (just put a square of hardware cloth over the regular grates, for test purposes. I'd think that it would make an unholy mess of the range and would require a long clean afterward, though.
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Re: My indoor gas grill: when hate turns to love

by Jenise » Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:23 pm

The griddle is basically a sideless skillet of rectangular shape that allows you to, say, make two quesadillas at once where you could only make one at a time in standard skillet. Or maybe you want to make grilled cheese sandwiches for your construction crew, or lots of pancakes for Suzanne, or ten burger patties at once. It's very handy because of it's shape and heat retention (if cast iron), but it's usefulness depends greatly on your style of cooking. I don't think that's you (I don't have one either).
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Re: My indoor gas grill: when hate turns to love

by Jeff Grossman » Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:59 pm

Jenise wrote:(I don't have one either)

So, no gambas a la plancha at your house?

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