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Downton Abbey Watching Party Dinner Menu

by Jenise » Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:18 pm

What would you serve?

I'm thinking canapes on toast points to start. A pate, and maybe mashed up peas with garlic and olive oil topped with a grilled prawn to cover the 'mushy pea' base in an elevated way.

For a main course, something red meat and Anglophile. Roasted lamb or beef and Shepherds Pie come to mind immediately. Or maybe a stew...but modernized. A 'meat pie' with flash seared filet mignon, mushrooms in a red wine sauce in some kind of crust garnished with pickled onions, maybe?

Gotta have a salad there too, because Jenise just has to serve salad. But I have little or no memory of salads in England but for the plain, undressed greens served on the plate with a Ploughman's Lunch. Maybe something with "English Cucumbers", to capitalize the play on words?

Dessert: sherry, of course. Not sure what with. I'm SO not a dessert maker.

Anyway, what would you do?
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Re: Downton Abbey Watching Party Dinner Menu

by Frank Deis » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:38 pm

Was it here that I learned about the book about the last meal on the Titanic?

I think it was -- I think you went to such a party, Jenise? I bought the cookbook but would have to scour around to find it. Probably everything in that book would be fair game.

Actually "cream teas" as a dessert might be a good touch.
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Re: Downton Abbey Watching Party Dinner Menu

by John Treder » Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:04 am

Roast beef for sure. How about "Swede" for a veggie? You'd need another veg, too - but the swede would substitute for the potatoes.
Salad? Watercress with a light vinaigrette was served to me in the early 70s in England as a light dish between the fish and the meat.
As you're not a dessert person, you surely don't want to trifle with a trifle. As I remember, dessert was usually assorted biscuits (British definition!) and some chocolates or other wrapped candies, with the coffee, port/sherry/brandy.
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Re: Downton Abbey Watching Party Dinner Menu

by Barb Downunder » Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:57 am

Surely a sherry trifle! Takes care of the sherry, and of course Victoria sponge as the cake layer, creme Anglaise is your custard, and for fruit what could be more pommy than strawberries.
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Re: Downton Abbey Watching Party Dinner Menu

by Jenise » Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:29 am

What about an aspic? Watching the meals at Downton, seems something set in aspic was fairly common. Would add drama.
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Re: Downton Abbey Watching Party Dinner Menu

by Peter May » Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:43 am

If you're serving while watching then you don't want to make it too fussy or be spending your time carving instead of watching. If people are watching while eating then again, something simple to serve and to eat.

Politician, millionaire (gaolbird) and famous author Jeffery Archer was well-known for holding Krug and Shepherds' Pie parties.

Combination of common peoples' food and rich peoples' wine.

Easy to make, easy to cook, easy to eat, freezes well.

Salad? You mention prawns.. how about a starter of Prawn Cocktail, bowl or large wine glass full of chopped iceberg topped iwth prawns with classic pink dressing - of which there seem to be an unlimited number of versions for this 'classic' dressing which I recall used to be basically mayonaise coloured with tomato ketchup.

As much ias I like Champagne, Id prefer a glass or two as aperifif and move on to the classic English and Sccottish wine - claret, i.e. Bordeaux red with the Shepherds' Pie.

PS - if the meat is not lamb then its a Cottage Pie
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Re: Downton Abbey Watching Party Dinner Menu

by Jenise » Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:00 am

Peter, I'll be serving dinner at the table before the show, then dessert with, which is why I can consider multiple courses and dishes requiring a knife and fork. And why I love the idea of doing some sort of roast. Shepherd's pie also occurred to me. An issue is that it would need to be made tomorrow and then reheated for service so that I could serve perfect squares. Unless I made them individually. Thanks for reminding me about the difference between Cottage and Shepherd's Pie. Over here, the terms are used interchangeably even by Canadians, but I do recall knowing that it's not correct.

As for a prawn cocktail, that would work well when fresh Oregon shrimp are available but they're not now. Whatever I get will be frozen from a far-off place, hence my leaning toward grilled or suspended in aspic--a very Upstairs preparation!
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by Christina Georgina » Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:22 pm

Dorothy L. Sayers novels and stories about Lord Peter Wimsey are full of descriptions of what he, Harriet and his friends and acquaintances ate. THe Lord Peter Wimsey Cookbook is a compilation of menus and recipes. Fun reading and many possible ideas foe a Downton Dinner. A 1981 publication by Elizabeth Bond Ryan and William J. Eakins
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Re: Downton Abbey Watching Party Dinner Menu

by Jenise » Fri Jan 01, 2016 7:10 pm

Cool! Will look into that, but may not have time to do deep research before Sunday.

Say, do you know, is English Toffee really English? I appreciate Barb's suggestion of Trifle, but I don't think I'm going to have time to make a complex dessert. Or at least, me being me, if I only have X amount of time I'd put the extra effort into the earlier part of the meal. So just now noticing the can of (excellent) Trader Joe's English Toffee we bought a month ago made me think of making little bonbons of ice cream rolled in crushed English Toffee. Would be great with sherry.
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Re: Downton Abbey Watching Party Dinner Menu

by John Treder » Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:18 pm

The toffee bonbons would be good, and would sort of fit the mould. (Note Genuine Fake British Spelling)
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Re: Downton Abbey Watching Party Dinner Menu

by Christina Georgina » Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:18 pm

No authority on toffee. In addition to trifle which I typically make to use leftover, staling holiday pound cake, pannetone or pan d'oro
you might consider a treacle tart or most simple, easy and elegant - Stilton, biscuits and port.
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Re: Downton Abbey Watching Party Dinner Menu

by Frank Deis » Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:25 am

I think English toffee is English -- toffee is a linguistic variant of "taffy" and your question reminds me of one of my fav English desserts, "sticky toffee pudding."

http://www.marthastewart.com/964319/sti ... ffee-sauce

We were assigned to make trifle for an English dinner and we actually bought a proper glass bowl for the presentation. It can be one of the easiest desserts to make -- the English are rather shameless about buying a cake and tearing it up, mixing it with jam, and layering it with fresh berries and Bird's Custard (we could just use vanilla pudding). The glass bowl displays the layers. I have a feeling you would want to make your own cake and some crème anglais etc. so it could also be seen as a difficult dessert.



I don't like trifle very much in fact but sticky toffee pudding can be exquisite.

And then there is Spotted Dick which is kind of a conversation piece. Imagine a big Twinky studded with currants or raisins.
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by Jenise » Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:15 am

Well, I was actually trying to avoid saying it, but you force my hand: the real problem for me and trifle is that I despise stuff like custard and vanilla pudding, so lovely as trifle is to look at--and I do adore 'construction projects'--I'm not going to eat it, so I have zero personal incentive to make one. Vs. putting my efforts into the part of the meal I like best, especially.

Something involving strawberries would, however, be most excellent if same were in season, but this isn't that season. I remember going to a farm in Cheshire where I lived and picking strawberries. Smaller and closer to orange in color than the dark purple-reds I was used to in California and bursting with flavor, they were just magical.

Spotted dick is just plain fun to talk about.

But I do like the toffee bonbons. So easy to make and serve, they'd be. And a big plus is that it's an original idea--I've not heard of such a thing, I just thought them up while staring at the canister of toffee Bob has almost emptied and wondering how I could make use of such a thing. And using English Toffee makes me think of English Muffin bread for toast points and English peas and English cucumbers...would be fun to use them all.
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Re: Downton Abbey Watching Party Dinner Menu

by Jeff Grossman » Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:55 am

Jenise, here is the real deal: Mrs. Beeton's menus (scroll a bit to "Bills of Fare"): http://www.mrsbeeton.com/40-chapter40.html
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Re: Downton Abbey Watching Party Dinner Menu

by Peter May » Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:24 am

Frank Deis wrote:
I don't like trifle very much


Maybe connected with a trifle recipe that doesn't have the cake soaked in Sherry....?

The illustration doesn't look like any trifle I've had, but the lining of sponge fingers brings to mind Charlotte Russe

Ref English Toffee.. no idea, toffee here is called 'toffee'.

OTOH muffins were were called 'muffins' until the invasion of American style cup-caps sold as Muffins and so our muffins now oft en are labelled as English Muffins.
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Re: Downton Abbey Watching Party Dinner Menu

by Jenise » Sun Jan 03, 2016 11:19 am

Jeff Grossman/NYC wrote:Jenise, here is the real deal: Mrs. Beeton's menus (scroll a bit to "Bills of Fare"): http://www.mrsbeeton.com/40-chapter40.html


OH MY GOD. Isn't that hilarious! I'm going to print out some parts to read at dinner tonight. I'll start with this gem: "The rank which a people occupy in the grand scale may be measured by their way of taking their meals, as well as by their way of treating their women." :)
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Re: Downton Abbey Watching Party Dinner Menu

by Jenise » Sun Jan 03, 2016 12:03 pm

Okay, so I spent the day yesterday making lists. The listing process revealed to me that I unfairly associate certain foods with British cooking because they were things I only learned to like or became familiar with during the year I lived just outside of Manchester--things like pate, beets, blue cheese (thank you, Stilton), Harvey's Bristol Cream Sherry, kirsch, sausage rolls,, and the swedes John reminded me of. I made a list of English dishes I remember like Cock-a-Leekie soup, colcannon, fish & chips in newspaper, beans on toast. And I made a list of things called English, authentic or not: English cucumbers, English peas, etc. And then I went shopping to see what just looking at food inspired.

Before leaving home, I did decide to do a roast Capon as my protein. I have one I ordered fresh from D'Artagnan a year ago, and it's been in the freezer for a year. I promised myself I'd cook it during this holiday season and I never got around to it. It just makes sense to use it now. And it will be a Downstairs course, as upstairs they'd be having pheasant. :)

While describing that decision to Bob, he took one last stab at trying to change me back to roast beef by mentioning Beef Wellington. Which was a lightning rod moment--not beef wellington, but beef-less Wellingtons! This is how I'd use the pate! Stuff it in a mushroom cap and bake it wrapped in puff pastry. Little individual appetizer pastries for serving with champagne!

I also decided that I'd do potato gallettes as the starch on my main course plate to serve underneath the sliced breast meat, and in fact I'd already bought potatoes for that purpose but that went straight out the window the second I saw a package of crumpets. What about, I said out loud, startling the woman standing next to me, a savory crumpet bread pudding? I've never made a bread pudding with crumpets, but why not? This would fit the 'Downstairs' nature of the course, too: the crumpets would have been leftover from m'lady's breakfast! This is when I have the most fun cooking--no recipes, no road map, just creating. So here's my menu:

Appetizers:

Beefless Wellingtons
Beans on Toast (slivered green beans and smoked salmon moistened with vinaigrette on toast points of English Muffin bread)

Salad course:

Golden and Chiogga beets in champagne aspic with "limey"-stone lettuce, watercress vinaigrette

Main course:

Pretend-It's-Pheasant Roast Capon
Cream Sherry Gravy
Crumpet and leek bread pudding (flecked with diced swede)
Mushy pea quenelle (crushed English peas, grated lemon peel, white pepper, cream)
Radishes sautéed in butter with mint

Dessert:

Toffee POM-poms (the bonbons, renamed)
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by John Treder » Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:48 pm

It'll be fun!
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by Jeff Grossman » Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:51 am

Glad you liked Mrs. Beeton.

Shouldn't you have two more soups, a fish course, and a palate cleanser? Not to mention all the right flatware for all those courses? What kind of table are you running here???
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by Jenise » Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:19 pm

I went even further, introducing each course as Upstairs or Downstairs. The appies we had while standing around, and of course with 'Beans on Toast' it has to be downstairs, so with those we had South African sparkling wine because we wouldn't get French wine like upstairs. One of my guests also staged a quiz with prizes (I won). Then we moved to the dining room for the (Upstairs) beet terrine/salad, which I served with an Oregon chardonnay because the beet-apple aspic needed new world fruit. Which went on to the Downstairs course of the Pretend-It's-Pheasant-Breast-of-Capon with crumpet bread pudding (while upstairs, they'd be having pheasant), and then moved to the den for the POM-poms, followed by Madeira. So we managed. I'm sure Mrs. Beeton would find tremendous fault with our service--no cloches, no footmen in tuxedos--but we mnaged all right. :)
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Re: Downton Abbey Watching Party Dinner Menu

by Jeff Grossman » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:30 am

Tonight, in a combined Upstairs, Downstairs homage to your gracious menu... we finished up the leftover Pheasant Salmi that I made for Xmas. :D
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Re: Downton Abbey Watching Party Dinner Menu

by Jenise » Tue Jan 05, 2016 1:43 pm

Jeff Grossman/NYC wrote:Tonight, in a combined Upstairs, Downstairs homage to your gracious menu... we finished up the leftover Pheasant Salmi that I made for Xmas. :D


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