Jon Peterson
The Court Winer
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Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:53 pm
The Blue Crab State
Paul Winalski
Wok Wielder
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:16 pm
Merrimack, New Hampshire
Carl Eppig
Our Maine man
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:38 pm
Middleton, NH, USA
Tom Troiano wrote:I figure if you're going to remove the fat and boil it (to make soup or a reduction sauce) that the boiling is going kill anything bad. No?
Harold McGee wrote:Boiling does kill any bacteria active at the time, including E. coli and salmonella. But a number of survivalist species of bacteria are able to form inactive seedlike spores. These dormant spores are commonly found in farmland soils, in dust, on animals and field-grown vegetables and grains. And the spores can survive boiling temperatures.
After a food is cooked and its temperature drops below 130 degrees, these spores germinate and begin to grow, multiply and produce toxins. One such spore-forming bacterium is Clostridium botulinum, which can grow in the oxygen-poor depths of a stockpot, and whose neurotoxin causes botulism.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/24/dinin ... wanted=all
Paul Winalski
Wok Wielder
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:16 pm
Merrimack, New Hampshire
Tom Troiano wrote:I figure if you're going to remove the fat and boil it (to make soup or a reduction sauce) that the boiling is going kill anything bad. No?
Paul Winalski wrote:You can keep stock in the fridge, but you have to take it out and boil it every few days to prevent bacteria and molds from growing in it.
Joy Lindholm wrote:Best rule of thumb - if you aren't going to use it within a week, freeze it.
Jon Peterson
The Court Winer
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Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:53 pm
The Blue Crab State
Howie Hart
The Hart of Buffalo
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:13 pm
Niagara Falls, NY
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