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Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
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Jenise wrote:the site below our plane was rather horrifying: almost no snow. Anywhere. There were bald patches all over the big dormant volcano mountains like Shasta, St. Helens, Hood and Rainier that at this time of year are usually packed with snow, in fact Rainier especially.
Mike Filigenzi
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Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:43 pm
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Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
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Alan Wolfe
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 10:34 am
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Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
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Karen/NoCA wrote:It is getting severe all over. A small town on the 101 near the coast of No CA, Willits, has ordered no outside watering, no washing cars, and 35% reduction in water use. All over CA it is bad. Here where we live, Lake Shasta is so low that people are walking the banks of the lake to find artifacts....boats whose owners never came to remove them are on dry land. We have observed in our own yard, not only damage from the heavy cold we've had for months, then hot afternoons, that all our flowering trees are coming out. Way too early for this. A much larger population of birds and squirrels are visiting our yard for a recycling water feature in our yard that provides water. Several other bird baths are emptied each day. We are already conserving big time at our home. We catch the flowing faucet water as we wait for the hot to come in. A bucket is in the shower to do the same. We are using that water to take care of individual plants we want to save. I hate to think of what is to come. So many folks are not clued into what is happening, they go along, clueless, sprinklers going everyday.....we are going to let our lawns go, and hoping to keep the trees we love alive with water we are saving. We have 25000 gallons in our pool....this will help. Yes, I am being pro-active, but better than being nothing at all.
Mike Filigenzi
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Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:43 pm
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Jenise wrote:
Good for you, Karen, good for you. Everyone in California is going to have to be pro-active--and those who don't voluntarily step up like you will be forced to comply. Wonder how long before they let the golf courses go dry.
Mike Filigenzi
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Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:43 pm
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wnissen wrote: We've been dithering about what to do with the lawn, which we let get pretty brown in the summer, but still accounts for most of our water use for the year. This winter, though, it hasn't rained enough to get green at all like normal. We're seeing daffodils already!
Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
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Mike Filigenzi
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Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:43 pm
Sacramento, CA
Jenise wrote:Maybe it's time for the grass to go?
We spent a few days with friends in Lake Havasu a few weeks ago. I was there for three days before I commented on their green patch of lawn being the only grass in the neighborhood--and found out that it's fake. I was totally fooled. You see it here below in one of the shots I took from their roof deck.
Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
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Redwinger
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:36 pm
Way Down South In Indiana, USA
Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
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Redwinger wrote:Jenise-
Our cats would love to live in that neighborhood.
Jenise wrote:Maybe it's time for the grass to go?
We spent a few days with friends in Lake Havasu a few weeks ago. I was
there for three days before I commented on their green patch of lawn being
the only grass in the neighborhood--and found out that it's fake. I was
totally fooled. You see it here below in one of the shots I took from
their roof deck.
Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
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wnissen wrote:Yeah, we've done a lot of research that has resulted in no action on our part. We looked pretty closely at the synthetic lawns, but found that they were about $10 a square foot installed, and only really lasted for 10 years. I'm surprised the ones you saw were in good shape after that long. We have about 1500 sq ft of grass, so it was going to be about $1,500 per year, when our water bill for the whole house is less than that.
We also looked at Buffalo Grass, which is a very drought tolerant grass that goes brown in the winter. We worry that the water to get it established won't be available, though.
Redwinger
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:36 pm
Way Down South In Indiana, USA
Brian K Miller
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Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:05 am
Northern California
Alan Wolfe wrote:It's good to know that the Delta Smelt is being taken care of, despite the shortage.
Brian K Miller
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Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:05 am
Northern California
wnissen wrote:It rained gently for several hours yesterday, so I felt compelled to go outside with my kindergartener to enjoy the rare treat. Sort of like we used to do with the first snowfall in Ohio. It's sad, actually.
Our town gets its water primarily from the State Water Project, which is currently projecting no distribution this year. We already have low-flow everything in the house, not quite to the point of having a bucket, though. We've been dithering about what to do with the lawn, which we let get pretty brown in the summer, but still accounts for most of our water use for the year. This winter, though, it hasn't rained enough to get green at all like normal. We're seeing daffodils already!
The ranchers and growers have my sympathy, but they have been getting huge subsides for a very long time now, and if we have to choose between having water for people and growing crops like tomatoes in the desert, I know what I'd choose. The area near where my mom lives outside of Cleveland still has countless greenhouses from the time when it was the tomato capital of Ohio. Water is not a problem, in fact many people have sump pumps to prevent flooding in the basement. That's where the tomatoes were grown before the western irrigation program started. Of course, it's not cost effective to grow tomatoes in a temperate climate when you can grow them year-round with water paid for by someone else, so the farming stopped. It's starting to look like it will be shifting back sooner rather than later, with the West Coast drought and the looming exhaustion of the Ogalalla aquifer.
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