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what once was trash is now dinner

by Dale Williams » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:00 pm

Interesting article

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/27/dinin ... &ref=style

I can't say I love carrot greens. But after reading this Betsy noticed how nice the greens on some radishes she bought at farmer's market were, and made radish leaf pesto Sunday. Very nice, a peppery edge, unusual and good.

So I'm curious what you guys use that others throw away?
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Re: what once was trash is now dinner

by Robin Garr » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:05 pm

Dale Williams wrote:So I'm curious what you guys use that others throw away?

Define "throw away." Mary is an Extreme Composter and has been at it for (whoa!) 17 years in this location, so most of our "wet garbage" has gone into rich, friable garden soil rather than the public landfill.

As for the point of this article, though, we generally do save and cook beet greens; and things like the woody end of mushroom stems and onion skins go into vegetable stock. (Onion skins are especially good, as they add both flavor and a good rich color to veggie stock.)
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Re: what once was trash is now dinner

by Karen/NoCA » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:36 pm

We eat beet greens, the light green leaves left on the cauliflower, leaves on the broccoli. A grower at our local Farmer's Market, Wolfgang Rougle, studied agriculture at UC Davis, and is owner of Twinning Tree Farms. The food she grows is amazing. She advises eating carrot tops for not only taste but nutritional value. She has also written a book on eating wild plants from our valley floor and forests. One week she had a huge amount of purslane, with recipes for using it. I just cannot get past the idea that some of the plants are weeds to us, that we have actually pulled from our yard. Everything she grows is just a bit different, and amazing. Your post sparked my interest. I am going to take a much closer look at what she has to offer and give something new a try.
Since Robin has been posting about Mary and her garden, I have started saving my kitchen vegetable and fruit scraps for the garden compost.
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Re: what once was trash is now dinner

by Rahsaan » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:47 pm

Dale Williams wrote:I can't say I love carrot greens. But after reading this Betsy noticed how nice the greens on some radishes she bought at farmer's market were, and made radish leaf pesto Sunday. Very nice, a peppery edge, unusual and good.


When the vegetables are good and the greens/tops are tender, I always use them. But usually more like herbs than greens. I use carrot tops much like I would parsley.
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Re: what once was trash is now dinner

by Jenise » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:58 pm

Radish green pesto? Clever, sounds wonderful. By the same token I made two batches of turnip green pesto in the last week myself.

And I'm staring at my day lilies with renewed interest, having read of a chef who cuts and sautees the flower stems. I've heard of, and used myself, the flowers and buds, but never the stalks. And I now harvest chickweed for salads instead of pulling it out with the other weeds.
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Re: what once was trash is now dinner

by Karen/NoCA » Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:41 pm

I wonder if crab grass has a purpose in this life? :twisted:
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Re: what once was trash is now dinner

by Mike Filigenzi » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:25 am

Karen/NoCA wrote:I wonder if crab grass has a purpose in this life? :twisted:


Only one way to find out! :wink:
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Re: what once was trash is now dinner

by Paul Winalski » Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:05 am

I use fresh coriander roots when making Thai curry pastes.

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Re: what once was trash is now dinner

by Howie Hart » Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:14 am

A friend's mother always uses parsley root in her soups.
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Re: what once was trash is now dinner

by Robin Garr » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:42 am

Howie Hart wrote:A friend's mother always uses parsley root in her soups.

Parsley root, like celery root/celeriac, frequently turns up in produce shops around here.
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Re: what once was trash is now dinner

by Karen/NoCA » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:03 pm

I use parsley stems, just like cilantro stems. Never tried the root.
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by GeoCWeyer » Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:23 pm

Many years ago during a hot very dry summer in Uruguay the local woman who made ravioli used carrot tops as the "green" portion of the filling due to the lack of other usable greens. With the richness of the bovine brains also used it went over well.
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Re: what once was trash is now dinner

by Daniel Rogov » Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:29 pm

Roots and their attendant vegetables are super-easily accessible throughout Europe and the Middle-East. Among the most highly valued are parsley root and celery root/celeriac, both of which make their way into just about every meat or vegetarian based stock. Best of all, inexpensive as hell, in fact absolutely free when you purchase the whole parsley plant or the whole celery.

Imagine if you will a Jewish or Italian cook preparing a chicken soup without parsley root? A difficult stretch of the imagination at best.

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Re: what once was trash is now dinner

by Carl Eppig » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:28 pm

I could say the same thing about fish.
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Re: what once was trash is now dinner

by Mark Lipton » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:10 pm

Robin Garr wrote:
Howie Hart wrote:A friend's mother always uses parsley root in her soups.

Parsley root, like celery root/celeriac, frequently turns up in produce shops around here.


Interesting, Robin. Since parsley is in the same family with fennel and carrots it makes some sense that its root would be edible. Extending this thought, I'll note that dill is also in the same family :P

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Re: what once was trash is now dinner

by Dale Williams » Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:28 pm

Robin,
I was using trash only in a culinary sense, I've been head wrangler at a multi-level worm ranch for several years (compost rules)

Thanks for all the comments. I've generally composted broccoli and cauliflower leaves, but will try next time. I do make broccoli stem pickles (or just steam a bit longer than florets). I do use mushroom stems in stock, never tried onion skin.

Celeriac/celery root is a slightly different story, as it's a cultivar grown FOR the root. The question then would be do you use the leaves/stalks. :)
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Re: what once was trash is now dinner

by Mark Lipton » Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:12 pm

Dale Williams wrote:I do make broccoli stem pickles (or just steam a bit longer than florets).


Dale,
Jacques Pepin has opined that the stems are the most tasty part of the broccoli plant and recommends peeling them, slicing and cooking as you would the rest of the plant.

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Re: what once was trash is now dinner

by Rahsaan » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:58 pm

Mark Lipton wrote:
Dale Williams wrote:I do make broccoli stem pickles (or just steam a bit longer than florets).


Dale,
Jacques Pepin has opined that the stems are the most tasty part of the broccoli plant and recommends peeling them, slicing and cooking as you would the rest of the plant.

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Why wouldn't you use the broccoli stems? It never occurred to me not to use them.
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Re: what once was trash is now dinner

by Dale Williams » Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:47 am

Rahsaan,
I've never thrown away broccoli stems, though sometimes those farmers market ones that look like a mace have higher proportion stalk to florets than I want, those I make pickles out of. But I was referring to article (and obviously if you shop at supermarkets the predominance of broccoli "crowns" indicates many people probably do throw away).
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Re: what once was trash is now dinner

by Bob Henrick » Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:11 pm

Mark Lipton wrote:Dale,
Jacques Pepin has opined that the stems are the most tasty part of the broccoli plant and recommends peeling them, slicing and cooking as you would the rest of the plant.

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Mark, I actually prefer the stalk and prepare it just as you described. It's much better IMO than the florets.
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