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Cod Piece

by Jenise » Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:51 pm

There's something really good that happens to cod when it's deep-fried that I like a lot. And there's something unattractive to me about it when it's cooked any other way. I have no idea what super hot oil does that steaming, baking and poaching don't do, but it's pretty much the same for me and most oily white fish, so I've avoided it.

Until lately. I'm actually on a campaign to learn to like it because, healthwise, I should eat more fish and cod is both sustainable and affordable at around $12/lb where everything else, what little there is of "everything else", costs about twice that. I've cooked it about three times in the last six months, but treated it the same way each time--coated with bread crumbs (seasoned with herbs and, sometimes, parmesan) and oven-baked.

Oh, let me segue for a sec. In Jeffrey Steingarten's book, The Man Who Ate Everything, he details the fact that when he was first offered the Vogue food writer/critic gig, he felt unworthy because like most people over the age of 12 he had acquired a goodly list of somewhat unreasonable aversions and dislikes. Kimchi, swordfish, anchovies, Greek food, miso, mocha, chutney, sea urchins, felafel, clams, cranberries, okra, and refried beans were among them. He looked into cures, and after rejecting brain surgery and drug dependence, concluded that exposure, plain and simple, was the answer: "Most babies will accept nearly anything after eight or ten tries." So he set forth, and every day for six months he ate at least one food that he detested. The result? Of kimchi he hilariously writes, "...the national pickle of Korea has become my national pickle, too". And so it went, apparently, for most of his other aversions, enough to deem himself finally a "perfect omnivore" and become an equally perfect pain in the ass at dinner parties when seated next to someone who dared avoid something on their plate just like he used to do. (Step Six of his six-step program was "relearn humility". :) )

To me it's pretty obvious that I'll never be able to consider runny egg yolks or any condiment that looks like my grandmother's hand cream acceptable food, but I've overcome and even learned to love most of my longheld aversions, so cod, I'm thinking, should be easy. I just have to apply myself.

Toward that goal,I bought a nice fat 12 ounce filet at Whole Foods in Seattle yesterday. So, with cod in hand--so to speak--I ask, what shall I do with this fish? I'm tired of my neophobic reliance on coatings to make something that others obviously enjoy taste palatable and am ready for the next step.

What are your favorite ways of preparing cod?
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Re: Cod Piece

by Ian Sutton » Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:26 pm

One classic (so much so it's undoubtedly now a cliche) is cod wrapped in parma ham, then oven baked.
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Re: Cod Piece

by Daniel Rogov » Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:39 pm

The ultimately simple and classic.... Dip first in lightly beaten eggs, dip then in dried, salt and pepper seasoned bread crumbs (would you believe matzoh crumbs are great for this) and then quickly pan fry just until the breading turns a healthy brown. Serve with nothing more than lemon quarters or, if you're in a bold mood, with aioli.

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Re: Cod Piece

by Rahsaan » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:11 pm

I find it hard to believe you only like cod when fried!

I love it just baked and then adorned with whatever sauce/herbs/citrus I feel like. There's something so rich buttery about the flavor of cod, while the texture is so flaky and delicate. I think it's great and doesn't need much, but can also be versatile. Hard to go wrong if the fish is good.
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by David M. Bueker » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:13 pm

Fried cod - love it. But being from New England I need tartar sauce.
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Re: Cod Piece

by Jenise » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:32 pm

Rahsaan wrote:I find it hard to believe you only like cod when fried!

I love it just baked and then adorned with whatever sauce/herbs/citrus I feel like. There's something so rich buttery about the flavor of cod, while the texture is so flaky and delicate. I think it's great and doesn't need much, but can also be versatile. Hard to go wrong if the fish is good.


It's true. But I just have never warmed up to, essentially, any of the oily white fish except for black cod/sable fish. The Alaskan or True Cod typical of most Fish & Chips is the one I'm talking about here, and ditto red snapper and striped sea bass to name the first two that come to mind, and I've ordered both in fine restaurants hoping for an epiphany, but it has eluded me. The flavors of all have something in common I don't like. It's almost a bitterness, which seems to completely disappear in deep-frying.

But your comment about herbs and citrus appeals, so I just swam around over on Epicuious.com and found a recipe for baked cod with oranges, olives and rosemary; ingredients below. Will report back tomorrow.

1 orange
1/2 cup finely chopped seeded plum tomato
1/4 cup fresh orange juice
3 tablespoons minced red onion
1 1/2 tablespoons fresh lemon juice
4 teaspoons olive oil
1 tablespoon minced pitted Kalamata olives or other brine-cured black olives
1 tablespoon chopped drained capers
1 teaspoon chopped fresh rosemary
Nonstick vegetable oil spray
4 6-ounce cod fillet pieces
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Re: Cod Piece

by Jenise » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:34 pm

Daniel Rogov wrote:The ultimately simple and classic.... Dip first in lightly beaten eggs, dip then in dried, salt and pepper seasoned bread crumbs (would you believe matzoh crumbs are great for this) and then quickly pan fry just until the breading turns a healthy brown. Serve with nothing more than lemon quarters or, if you're in a bold mood, with aioli.

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Actually, I would love that--essentially, a fish schnitzel. The oven baked version I've done attempts the same thing but with less fat. (So it's not as good, but life is full of compromises. :) )
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Re: Cod Piece

by Jenise » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:35 pm

Ian Sutton wrote:One classic (so much so it's undoubtedly now a cliche) is cod wrapped in parma ham, then oven baked.


I've wrapped halibut in ham like that, and it's a fine preparation. Never thought of substituting cod, I shall try this too. Thanks!
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Re: Cod Piece

by Frank Deis » Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:48 pm

I've made Daniel Boulud's recipe for cod with blood orange sauce and creamy grits many times.

http://tinyurl.com/3kmcre8

The fish is cooked in a frying pan with a couple of tablespoons of butter, until it is seared and flakey.

The blood orange juice is reduced with chopped endive -- the bitter flavor of the endive forms an interesting impression with the sweet orange juice. And the grits are cooked until very creamy.

Of course it's more of a winter dish...
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Re: Cod Piece

by Dale Williams » Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:10 pm

this is probably a bit simple for you jenise, but one of the easiest fish dishes i know
http://www.justbestrecipes.com/vegetabl ... ables.html
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by Mike Filigenzi » Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:58 pm

And here I thought this thread was about Tom Hill.....
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Re: Cod Piece

by Lou Kessler » Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:23 pm

Mike Filigenzi wrote:And here I thought this thread was about Tom Hill.....

En Garde??Spelling? The last noble musketeer. :wink: :roll: That's ok Mike, it was my thought also.
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Re: Cod Piece

by Rahsaan » Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:29 pm

Jenise wrote:The flavors of all have something in common I don't like. It's almost a bitterness, which seems to completely disappear in deep-frying.


Well I certainly can't deny that frying fixes many food phobias/dislikes!
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by Jenise » Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:18 pm

Mike Filigenzi wrote:And here I thought this thread was about Tom Hill.....


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by Jeff Grossman » Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:52 pm

Pan saute or bake the fish and server with Sauce Veracruz.

Or cut portobello mushrooms and roasted red peppers into half-inch dice, mix with black olives (about the same size) and saute in oil, garlic and herbs. Cover the fish with the chunky sauce and bake.
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Re: Cod Piece

by Jenise » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:12 pm

Dale Williams wrote:this is probably a bit simple for you jenise, but one of the easiest fish dishes i know
http://www.justbestrecipes.com/vegetabl ... ables.html


Oh gosh, Dale, nothing's too simple if the ingredients are fresh and healthy. I love the sound of this and will definitely do this dish, as well as Frank's suggestion of the blood orange sauce version. Thanks so much for the ideas (and the link to Daniel's book, I just lost the last 45 minutes of my life leafing through that.)

Last night's cod was both a success and a failure. The failure was technical glitches on my end. Once faced with the ingredients I intended to make last night's dish out of, I went rogue because I thought I saw an even better dish in there. The fish went into a small hotel pan with fresh rosemary, olive oil and the juice of an orange. Separately, the zest and supremes of another orange, finely diced shallots and chopped castelveltrano olives were tossed with a bit of lime juice, more EVOO and seasoned with salt and pepper. So, a marinade, and a fresh, raw sauce to top the fish with when it came out of the grill pan...and that's where everything went wrong. Cod, I discovered is more porous than had understood (especially after soaking up a marinade) and generally too soft a fish for a grill pan. The flesh just sank into all the grooves from which it had to be pried out with a butter knife. The crispies that generated actually made a really tasty, if inadvertent, topping, but all the same it was pretty sad in the looks department. But the success part came in that we both liked the flavors, finding rosemary an especially attractive seasoning for the cod, and I actually ate my entire portion (rare for me and fish).

Jeff, re Vera Cruz, I am suddenly reminded of a Red Snapper Vera Cruz that I ordered at a high end Seafood restaurant in Newport Beach one time. It was ages ago but the fish was baked/topped with a melange of chopped tomatoes, green olives and onions, among other things. Not very dissimilar from the ingredients list on the dish I showed Rahsaan above, actually. Is that right/close?

Oh, and a story germaine to the taste of fried vs. baked/roasted. I explained this to a friend years ago when I was staying in Holland, and decided to actually test whether or not the difference was the method or the actual fish of a given purchase. So I bought two pieces of cod and divided them. I deep-fried a piece of each and oven-baked the other two. Sure enough, the flavors and textures were so different as to have been two different species of fish.
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by Jeff Grossman » Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:20 pm

Jenise wrote:Jeff, re Vera Cruz, I am suddenly reminded of a Red Snapper Vera Cruz that I ordered at a high end Seafood restaurant in Newport Beach one time. It was ages ago but the fish was baked/topped with a melange of chopped tomatoes, green olives and onions, among other things. Not very dissimilar from the ingredients list on the dish I showed Rahsaan above, actually. Is that right/close?

Yes. Add a bit of chili and you're there. (I'll try to post my recipe later.)
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by Jenise » Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:45 pm

Jeff Grossman/NYC wrote:
Jenise wrote:Jeff, re Vera Cruz, I am suddenly reminded of a Red Snapper Vera Cruz that I ordered at a high end Seafood restaurant in Newport Beach one time. It was ages ago but the fish was baked/topped with a melange of chopped tomatoes, green olives and onions, among other things. Not very dissimilar from the ingredients list on the dish I showed Rahsaan above, actually. Is that right/close?

Yes. Add a bit of chili and you're there. (I'll try to post my recipe later.)


Okay, good. I remember the dish very well: I ate the topping, left the fish. :)
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by Jacques Levy » Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:54 pm

From one of my favorite reads last summer: Fish in Crazy Water or Pesce in Acqua Pazza

http://www.mediterraneansummer.com/food ... razy_water

I have used cod instead of halibut, I also used striped bass a couple of times

Note that the recipe has an error - the ingredients note skinless fish, the recipe says "Place the fish in the pan, skin side down" I used fish with skin on. I also do not seed the tomatoes, I like the added acidity from the tomato water.
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by Karen/NoCA » Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:40 pm

Jacques Levy wrote:From one of my favorite reads last summer: Fish in Crazy Water or Pesce in Acqua Pazza

http://www.mediterraneansummer.com/food ... razy_water

I have used cod instead of halibut, I also used striped bass a couple of times

Wasn't that book just the best for summer reading? I loved it.....and put myself right in there taking that voyage with David. :D
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Re: Cod Piece

by Rahsaan » Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:47 pm

Is anyone else worried about cod overfishing?

I bought some cod for lunch today (a delightful meal of baked cod with a dash of sesame oil and lemon, roasted potatoes, roasted asparagus, and salad) when my wife blurted out: 'Why are you still buying cod? I thought I told you it was overfished and not to be bought.'

I had no response other than the fact that it was delicious and well-priced.
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Re: Cod Piece

by Jenise » Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:13 am

Dale Williams wrote:this is probably a bit simple for you jenise, but one of the easiest fish dishes i know
http://www.justbestrecipes.com/vegetabl ... ables.html


Made this for dinner last night, Dale, and enjoyed it A LOT. For just the two of us, I used a 10 ounce filet, two carrots, one yukon gold potato, about 6 ounces of a mild Washington chardonnay, several stalks of celery, half a Walla Walla sweet and one garlic clove. All that made a pretty perfect crowded single layer in a 10" round earthenware baking dish and produced not only enough to feed the two of us but enough leftovers to send with Bob to work today. I embellished the recipe only in garniture, topping it before serving with a cob's worth of quickly nuked fresh yellow corn that being both salty, sweet and crisp provided a good yin to the dish's yang, and a few tablespoons of chervil. A definite do-again for being both so light and yet so comforting. Thanks!
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by Jacques Levy » Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:01 am

Rahsaan wrote:Is anyone else worried about cod overfishing?

I bought some cod for lunch today (a delightful meal of baked cod with a dash of sesame oil and lemon, roasted potatoes, roasted asparagus, and salad) when my wife blurted out: 'Why are you still buying cod? I thought I told you it was overfished and not to be bought.'

I had no response other than the fact that it was delicious and well-priced.


Here's your response Rahsaan, it depends on the the way the cod was caught. And Pacific cod seems to be fine in some instances.

http://www.montereybayaquarium.org/cr/S ... aspx?gid=7
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Re: Cod Piece

by Rahsaan » Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:12 am

Jacques Levy wrote:Here's your response Rahsaan, it depends on the the way the cod was caught. And Pacific cod seems to be fine in some instances.

http://www.montereybayaquarium.org/cr/S ... aspx?gid=7


Ok, thanks. Although living in Nyc I guess I'm getting Atlantic cod.
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