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by Jenise » Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:23 pm

So I finally found it, and DVR'd a few things to watch over my morning tea this week. Some thoughts:

Roger Mooking's show--Exotic [something]: Sorry, after just one episode I can promise you I won't be a fan. Host has engaging personality but the shtick of the 'Obedient Ingredient' that I presume is the premise of each show and his unrealistically low-function set (like the lit up spice wall, and the 8 or 9 inch round built-in depression on his prep counter that is an uncovered boatload of kosher salt) just lost me. Nothing to learn from here.

Laura Calder's French Cooking at Home: what a breath of fresh air this woman is. I get why SyBill Spohn :wink: is such a fan. No shticks, no gimmicks, no attitude, no Giada-esque soft porn music: just unpretentiously elegant food I'd like to eat prepared by a low-key, competent woman I might genuinely like to know. Mind you, this assessment is based on only two episodes. But so far, so good.

Galloping Gourmet: oh what a delight Graham Kerr was. I remembered that as a wee kid I thought him so cuddly and fun (and therefore 180 degrees unlike any other adult male in my sphere), but it took watching him again after all these years later to admire his great comic timing and a deadpan as good as Johnny Carson's. In the episode I watched, he made a Spanish omelet inspired by a trip he and his wife took to Acapulco. What a different time we live in, now that any of us can buy a fresh jalapeno or serrano chile in any supermarket any time--he used canned serranos. Other things made me cring a bit--this is the guy who said that leaving the skin on a toe-MAH-toe tells him the cook doesn't really care, yet he left the membrane on his bell peppers? And his knife skills were overall rather disappointing. But when he put his dish under the broiler (he made it souffle-style and had to puff the top, couldn't turn this one over) and then had to stand there looking quite silly wearing a uni-bodied oven mitt where there's a side for each hand connected by about ten inches of fabric and tell self-deprecating storeies while it finished, he won me all over again.

Julie & Company: for the most part I never saw Julia's later series which is what I expected this one to be, but to my delight it was an episode of the old The French Chef, though perhaps a later one in that batch. It was called Pizza Variations, I believe, and she so committed every sloppy error she's so famous for it was almost more like one of Dan Akroyd's en-pointe SNL skits than she herself. For instance: when she put the flour for her dough in the Kitchen-Aid she added too little water so while she's talking the flour was jumping out of the bowl, a flour-water combination she mixed by shaking them in a wide-mouth jar went everyplace because she didn't close the jar tightly, she burned one of the pizzas, and another wouldn't come off the peel she made out of the bottom of a former drawer after an extensive and very physical demonstration of just how to make it do so. There was more, but that gives you the flavor--I howled with delight. Oh, and at the end she sat down to serve herself a bit of her creations, and there was a jug bottle (complete with finger hook on the side) of generic red wine, labeled RED WINE in two inch high letters. Talk about bad props...anyway, most entertaining. Oh, and appropos of about nothing, I note that both she and Graham pronounced the herb I call oh-RAY-gan-no as or-ee-GAW-no. Well, she said it more like or-eh-GAW-no, but minor difference.

Nigella Lawson: I've never seen Nigella before but for an episode of Top Chef in which she was a guest judge, however I'm very well aware of her reputation. So it's saying something that even then this was far more lascivious than I expected, though she didn't even lick her fingers once. She just purposefully scatters her descriptions with a lot of nouns and adjectives more common to sex than food. No prude but I can tell I'm not her target audience, and I wouldn't watch her again.
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by Ted Richards » Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:51 pm

Jenise wrote:So I finally found it, and DVR'd a few things to watch over my morning tea this week. Some thoughts:

Roger Mooking's show--Exotic [something]: Sorry, after just one episode I can promise you I won't be a fan.

Laura Calder's French Cooking at Home: what a breath of fresh air this woman is. I get why SyBill Spohn :wink: is such a fan. No shticks, no gimmicks, no attitude, no Giada-esque soft porn music: just unpretentiously elegant food I'd like to eat prepared by a low-key, competent woman I might genuinely like to know. Mind you, this assessment is based on only two episodes. But so far, so good.


I agree about Roger Mooking. There are at least two much better Canadian Food Network shows they could have chosen - Anthony Sedlak's The Main, and Michael Smith's Chef at Home series.

Never fear - I don't know which two Laura Calder shows you saw, but they all maintain the same high standard.
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by Robin Garr » Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:32 pm

Jenise wrote:So I finally found it, and DVR'd a few things to watch over my morning tea this week. Some thoughts

Didn't want to try "Chinese Cooking Made Easy," eh? :D I'd have loved to hear your thoughts on the Chinese Rachael Ray! :D
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by Karen/NoCA » Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:41 pm

I like Roger Mooking, I like his passion for the food he cooks, I like when he goes shopping, I like his theme song. I think the obedient ingredient is stupid, totally stupid. Last week it was Nori that was obedient....ugh! The hole in the counter for salt drives me nuts. I don't want my salt collecting dust, moisture from the air, bugs dropping by or whatever else is floating around the kitchen. The back lit spice wall is unique and seems to have a whole bunch of people searching for it. I would not want it, but there it is, different.
I need to find Laura Calder, from what I have seen on a website she posts on, I like her. I enjoy those cooking shows now and then as a no-brainer, to just sit and vege...like right now. We are expecting 107 - 110 for the next two days. Our daughter is about one hour away...coming here from Ohio. A family member who grew up on Vashon Island will also be in town, she is a teenager and sick of Vashon...wants to go do teen stuff while here, shop for teen clothes, before going back to Vashon....heaven help me!! So I get to vege for about another hour then all hell breaks loose.
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by Jeff Grossman » Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:49 pm

Oh, I used to watch Graham Kerr all the time. A hero from my boyhood.
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by Carl Eppig » Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:50 pm

It was Graham Kerr who convinced us to get into Scan Pan many years ago, and it has resulted in many decades of happy stove top and oven cooking. Tonight we will use one of their saute' pans to make Haddock a la Creme.
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by Karen/NoCA » Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:52 am

I used to watch Graham Kerr in his avocado green kitchen all the time. He was a hoot. Wasn't he arrested for some sort of scandal he got involved in? Can't recall what it was.
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by Robin Garr » Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:10 am

Karen/NoCA wrote:I used to watch Graham Kerr in his avocado green kitchen all the time. He was a hoot. Wasn't he arrested for some sort of scandal he got involved in? Can't recall what it was.

I may be wrong about this, Karen, but I think you may be blending recollections of the Frugal Gourmet, who faced very serious charges of child sexual abuse that pretty much destroyed his reputation, particularly since he had also been a Methodist minister :oops: , and the Galloping Gourmet, who was briefly paralyzed after a near-fatal auto accident and, I think, swore off alcohol thereafter.
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by Jenise » Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:46 am

Robin Garr wrote:and the Galloping Gourmet, who was briefly paralyzed after a near-fatal auto accident and, I think, swore off alcohol thereafter.


That's right. He also became deeply religious. He lives, btw, about 50 miles from me. I keep meaning to try to go find his house (as an architecture nut, I just love connecting people to their homes.)
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by Jenise » Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:56 pm

Karen/NoCA wrote:I like Roger Mooking, I like his passion for the food he cooks, I like when he goes shopping, I like his theme song. I think the obedient ingredient is stupid, totally stupid.


In a nutshell it's what's wrong with all cooking television, the idea that you need a hook, that the public is so lame-brained that they won't watch your show if you're merely intelligent, likeable and very very skilled. In fact, if you watch the corny Next Food Network Star (Carrie and I watch it anyway), it's appallingly obvious that skill may be the least valued commodity of all. It's a wonder that in such an environment Laura Calder got her own show--I can only surmise that the Canadians aren't as fixated on pleasing the lowest common denominator as we are.

Yeah, the salt thing's stupid. But the spice wall is equally so: okay, it's good looking, all backlit and everything. But consider what it is (I'm describing this for the sake of others who haven't seen it): it's clear plastic square open (unlidded) cups that were like shallow drawers--maybe there were 20? It was four high and I think five wide--each with a big wide handle and each with a capacity of at least 3 cups and more likely four, thinking about the size of my quart-size Pyrex measuring cup which, if it were square and plastic, would be about the same thing we're talking about. Even only half full that's a huge amount of ingredient especially when contained in a device that offers little or no protection of freshness that I can tell. It's just another gimmick and I'm not impressed.

Robin, didn't see the Chinese show on when I cruised the guide for available shows early last week so I didn't tape it. The only other thing I watched was about one minute of a show that was apparently health-fanatic cooking in which I watched the host boast about how rich her creamed spinach was going to be because she used 1% milk. I couldn't change the channel fast enough. :)
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by Jeff Grossman » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:08 pm

Jenise wrote:
Robin Garr wrote:and the Galloping Gourmet, who was briefly paralyzed after a near-fatal auto accident and, I think, swore off alcohol thereafter.


That's right. He also became deeply religious. He lives, btw, about 50 miles from me. I keep meaning to try to go find his house (as an architecture nut, I just love connecting people to their homes.)


I saw a few of his post-hallelujah shows. They were deadly dull.
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by Jo Ann Henderson » Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:14 pm

I haven't seen this channel. Need to see wehther it's in our market. I would think so.
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by Jenise » Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:03 am

Jo Ann Henderson wrote:I haven't seen this channel. Need to see wehther it's in our market. I would think so.


Jo Ann, it's 204 up here. I have Comcast.
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by Robin Garr » Sun Jul 25, 2010 7:49 am

Jo Ann Henderson wrote:I haven't seen this channel. Need to see wehther it's in our market. I would think so.

Jo Ann, it's the same as the old Fine Living Channel with a new name and concept, so it should be at the same place in your cable lineup.
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by Karen/NoCA » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:53 am

Robin Garr wrote:
Karen/NoCA wrote:I used to watch Graham Kerr in his avocado green kitchen all the time. He was a hoot. Wasn't he arrested for some sort of scandal he got involved in? Can't recall what it was.

I may be wrong about this, Karen, but I think you may be blending recollections of the Frugal Gourmet, who faced very serious charges of child sexual abuse that pretty much destroyed his reputation, particularly since he had also been a Methodist minister :oops: , and the Galloping Gourmet, who was briefly paralyzed after a near-fatal auto accident and, I think, swore off alcohol thereafter.

That's right Robin, I remember now. I used to watch that show, as well. Thanks for the memory booster.
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by Jo Ann Henderson » Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:00 pm

Okay, found it. But, it looks like this is a premium service that requires additional $$. God - I already have extended cable with HBO -- I'm not going to get a second mortgage just to watch television. GEESH!!! :?
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by Carl Eppig » Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:24 pm

Son-in-law installed our new TV today, and we have the Cooking Channel. Watching it now.
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by Bill Spohn » Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:58 am

Unfortunately we don't seem to get this channel above the border.

Glad to hear they have brought down some of my favourites though.

Too many of thse TV chefs come across like the guy selling the Slap Chop (with a phone in his ear, presumably hoping for that phone call that tells him he really isn't a pathetic moron) trying to sell you on something, their food philosophy usually, or in the case of several female 'stars' aopparently trying to sell you themselves with soft porn undertones.

Can the innuendo, double entendres and mannered 'bams' and just tell me why I should like the food you are talking about.

Laura Calder is fresh air compared to those geeks. No fake cameraderie, no sales spiel, just someone that likes to cook, showing you recipes she's found in France - not fancy classic cuisine, but more country fare that people, myself included, are more likely to want to try. I've found her recipe books to be well wrthwhile too, but anyone wanting to look at her output for free need only go to the Food Network Canada site and search on her recipes. They even have some TV shows on site.

Her recipes are at http://www.foodnetwork.ca/search/recipes/results.html?requiredfields=Show:French+Food+at+Home.Host:Laura%20Calder and the data base is searchable by show, ingredient etc.
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by Jenise » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:18 am

Jo Ann Henderson wrote:Okay, found it. But, it looks like this is a premium service that requires additional $$. God - I already have extended cable with HBO -- I'm not going to get a second mortgage just to watch television. GEESH!!! :?


I've been needing to call Comcast about my options. We just don't watch enough TV to justify the cost of our cable bill. MSNBC all by itself comprises about 50% of my viewing--which isn't much.
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by Jenise » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:24 am

Bill Spohn wrote:Laura Calder is fresh air compared to those geeks. No fake cameraderie, no sales spiel, just someone that likes to cook, showing you recipes she's found in France


I just watched another episode, the first one since I started this thread. And it struck me that what you and I are appreciating is that she gives you just enough information in a friendly manner, but she's not chatty. Contrary to the FN belief that hosts have to fill the air with words, she explains what she needs to but feels no compunction to carry on during every single task, and the silences aren't deafening. Does she do a dessert on every show though? I believe in the three episodes I've seen she has.
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by Bill Spohn » Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:02 pm

Jenise wrote: Does she do a dessert on every show though? I believe in the three episodes I've seen she has.


Often, when her show is really in the form of a complete meal, but certainly not always. She's done whole shows on desserts and shows with no desserts.

Recently aired shows:

Salt & Pepper

Basque Eggs
Duck Breasts with Green Peppercorn Sauce
Salt and Savoury Biscuits
Salt Crusted Snapper
Steak Fried on Sea Salt

Picnic

Cherry Tart
Green Beans with Toasted Almonds
Lobster and Grapefruit Salad
Picnic Tabbouleh
Piedmont Eggs
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Life's Luxuries

Lobster Stew
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Jennifer McLagan's Simple Strawberry Ice Cream with Brandy Snaps
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by Dale Williams » Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:22 pm

Robin Garr wrote:Didn't want to try "Chinese Cooking Made Easy," eh? :D I'd have loved to hear your thoughts on the Chinese Rachael Ray! :D


I haven't seen the show, but I looked at the The Cooking Channel site. The recipes on the Chinese Cooking Made Easy section are pretty easy, but they don't seem especially dumbed down- they use fresh vegetables, fresh seafood (including crab) fresh ginger, 5 spice, chiles, etc. I don't know, maybe she has an irritating personality, but the recipes seem pretty decent at first glance.
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by Robin Garr » Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:42 pm

Dale Williams wrote:
Robin Garr wrote:Didn't want to try "Chinese Cooking Made Easy," eh? :D I'd have loved to hear your thoughts on the Chinese Rachael Ray! :D


I haven't seen the show, but I looked at the The Cooking Channel site. The recipes on the Chinese Cooking Made Easy section are pretty easy, but they don't seem especially dumbed down- they use fresh vegetables, fresh seafood (including crab) fresh ginger, 5 spice, chiles, etc. I don't know, maybe she has an irritating personality, but the recipes seem pretty decent at first glance.

Dale, she's not really irritating at all, and neither is the woman who does Indian Cooking Made Easy, although the young Chinese woman really does remind me of an ethnic Rachael Ray in her cute'n'perky personality. Not that there's anything wrong with that. 8) I dunno, though, the way the shows come across on TV they seem awfully dumbed down, and the part that really bothers me is that if you watch the production techniques carefully, they never actually show the personality cooking. It's either her smiley face, or else it's a pair of anonymous disembodied hands at work. Maybe it's her, but my cynical nature leads me to suspect that she can't cook but is the sock puppet used to give the show its personality. No, I couldn't take this to court, and I've actually watched the show a couple of times. It's just that by the time we reach the end of the half-hour I always feel like the old saying about Chinese food: An hour later, I wish I'd had more.
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by Bonnie in Holland » Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:26 am

Late to the discussion, but just quickly about Nigella....I am not a huge fan of her recipes - they always have to be tweeked in order to work, it seems to me. And not a huge fan of her tv shows, due to all of the finger-licking and innuendos and such. However, I am actually in general very appreciative of Nigella. She doesn't give a hoot about her figure or all the commentary about it. She does know her way around a kitchen, especially compared to Sophie Dahl (g-daughter of the author) who was supposed to be the new Nigella but who grips a knife with no confidence at all, knows zippo about cooking, and who the BBC decided to film for half the time busy shopping for books, reading poetry and other assorted irritating things (because cooking isn't her strong point?). And then the other bit I like about Nigella is that she is incredibly intelligent and writes really really well - with intelligence, irony and humor. The introductions to her recipes are wonderful (oops...way better than the recipes themselves)....too bad about the actual recipes. Anyway, that's my take on Nigella. cheers, Bonnie

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