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Kitchen Remodel Update: Week, what, 60? 160?

by Jenise » Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:56 pm

Feels like forever.

Since I last wrote, I selected the backsplash tile. I wanted the entire exposed wall area to be covered. It took three weeks for the tile to get here from Italy. Mind you, it wasn't what I originally had in mind for the kitchen, but I fell in love with it and convinced myself, from the sample, that it pulled the grays out of the rock fireplace in a good way. Only, the sample had two pieces of tile on it to show the two sizes it came in, and both were matched. I presumed of course that, this being a manmade tile, all the tiles in the batch would be identical. They weren't, and in fact the light colored ones were only about 1 in 8 or 9, the others were darker and went on the all more brown in tone than gray. Beautiful though they were even then in and of themselves, they sucked all the life out of the kitchen. All my special touches, like the fish-scale metal panel behind the stove, no longer stood out as they had before: they competed. UGH. I stopped the tiler after the first day, a Thursday, and said let me think about this over the weekend. Come Monday, I knew I could never be happy with it. VERY. EXPENSIVE. MISTAKE.

I'd also realized that my tiler, a really nice young guy with a young family to support, was technically good at cutting and placing the tile but that he did not invest in pre-planning. He learned his trade putting up tile in the spec homes his family built for a living. So he didn't open several of the boxes and lay out the contents, he didn't compare or plan ahead to absorb or even not use any tiles that were different. Had he done that with even two boxes, we'd have discovered the color variation and could have planned accordingly. Instead, I simply came down and found two really light colored 'tiles (these were six inches wide by 20" tall, being hung vertically) in a row after about 8 dark ones. Even forgiving him for assuming that all the tiles would be the same whatever color they were (he didn't have my experience with the sample), the two light ones should have never gone up. Then came three dark ones, making the lighter tiles look like defects. He put up three more dark ones before I came along and called the halt. A more experienced tiler with an eye for color would never have done this, or at least as soon as he realized the color difference he'd have called me down before proceeding; I was just upstairs.

Disappointing, but with closer supervision he'd do fine on the replacement, I finally decided, and eventually the replacement came in. The replacement was 8" x 20" off white ceramic tiles, very low sheen, with a horizontal ridged relief pattern in them--all texture, no color and almost a dead match for the paint color. We cut those down to 6" panels and installed them three high. They're PERFECT. Tight, tailored, classic, timeless, modern. That job got fnished just this last Saturday.

Meanwhile, the carpet went in three days before, and the audio system went in on Friday. There's more to do--the cabinet guy STILL isn't finished, and he has some repairs to do too. I can't believe, after all I went through to get this guy, what a nightmare he turned out to be. He's arguing that X and X weren't in his estimate, though since they were on the drawings and what I directed him to do, they obviously were, he even annotated the drawings with something that moved from the left side to the right. He believes he's therefore owed more money. I've told him that his amnesia (it's obvious he believes what he's saying) is not appreciated or amusing, and that had he completed the job in the eight weeks he originally predicted instead of dragging it out eight months we wouldn't have been having this conversation, he wouldn't have had time to forget. And what am I owed for being forced to wait this long? And mind you, not just for the kitchen, but for the den, the pantry, the laundry room, the hall, and the powder bath, all of which he did and none of which, save the powder bath, is complete? Anyway, the whole thing gives me an ulcer to think about, so back to the GOOD part: tile's up and it looks great, the carpet's perfect, and the bathroom tile will be delivered on Thursday.

So that's where we are....
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Re: Kitchen Remodel Update: Week, what, 60? 160?

by Jeff Grossman » Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:55 pm

Ah, tile. It can be so beautiful and so frustrating.
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Re: Kitchen Remodel Update: Week, what, 60? 160?

by ChefJCarey » Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:11 pm

Jeff Grossman/NYC wrote:Ah, tile. It can be so beautiful and so frustrating.


That's why I always lay it myself.
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Re: Kitchen Remodel Update: Week, what, 60? 160?

by Karen/NoCA » Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:47 pm

ChefJCarey wrote:
Jeff Grossman/NYC wrote:Ah, tile. It can be so beautiful and so frustrating.


That's why I always lay it myself.


You do? Wow and with everything else that you do, that is amazing. I will petition the Pope for your sainthood. Now if can just find an honest Pope.... :roll:
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Re: Kitchen Remodel Update: Week, what, 60? 160?

by Jeff Grossman » Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:49 pm

Karen/NoCA wrote:
ChefJCarey wrote:
Jeff Grossman/NYC wrote:Ah, tile. It can be so beautiful and so frustrating.


That's why I always lay it myself.


You do? Wow and with everything else that you do, that is amazing. I will petition the Pope for your sainthood. Now if can just find an honest Pope.... :roll:


It isn't all that different from lasagna.... :D
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Re: Kitchen Remodel Update: Week, what, 60? 160?

by Robert Reynolds » Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:32 pm

Karen/NoCA wrote:
ChefJCarey wrote:
Jeff Grossman/NYC wrote:Ah, tile. It can be so beautiful and so frustrating.


That's why I always lay it myself.


You do? Wow and with everything else that you do, that is amazing. I will petition the Pope for your sainthood. Now if can just find an honest Pope.... :roll:

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Re: Kitchen Remodel Update: Week, what, 60? 160?

by Jenise » Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:47 pm

ChefJCarey wrote:
Jeff Grossman/NYC wrote:Ah, tile. It can be so beautiful and so frustrating.


That's why I always lay it myself.


Want to do my bathroom? Tile will be here tomorrow. :)
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Re: Kitchen Remodel Update: Week, what, 60? 160?

by Karen/NoCA » Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:28 pm

Gene and our yougest son put a tile floor in our laundry room, did tile molding, and a tile folding counter for me. It really went smooth and looks beautiful. Both said that learning to use the tile cutter and cutting the tile was the tricky part.Our tile shop was very helpful with suggestions, and instructions.
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Re: Kitchen Remodel Update: Week, what, 60? 160?

by Jenise » Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:05 pm

Karen/NoCA wrote:Gene and our yougest son put a tile floor in our laundry room, did tile molding, and a tile folding counter for me. It really went smooth and looks beautiful. Both said that learning to use the tile cutter and cutting the tile was the tricky part.Our tile shop was very helpful with suggestions, and instructions.


Good for Gene. Bob and I have done tile before and wouldn't hesitate do some jobs, but the kitchen required a lot of intricate cuts around the cabinets and under-cabinet lighting, and neither of us was willing to attempt that or risk wasting $20 tiles. The bathroom will be a lot easier: big tiles, big walls. Chef should be able to knock it out in a day. :)
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Re: Kitchen Remodel Update: Week, what, 60? 160?

by Karen/NoCA » Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:57 pm

Hey Chef, you are up in the area where Jenise lives...go for it! You guys would have a ball cooking together after laying the tile. You aren't allergic to kitties, are you? :)

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