chef Rick Starr wrote:I am not asking for any debate
Rahsaan wrote:chef Rick Starr wrote:I am not asking for any debate
Why spoil the fun?
More seriously, I don't think I've eaten widely enough at the restaurants of the top chefs to make an informed list. But if I were to go on the cultural impact of chefs as observed by food trends and food debates, your three sound pretty good.
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Shel T wrote:I belong to a pretty large group of diners who don't acknowledge 'molecular gastronomy' as a "cuisine", so if you like we can award him the "mad scientist of the year trophy"..
Rahsaan wrote:Shel T wrote:I belong to a pretty large group of diners who don't acknowledge 'molecular gastronomy' as a "cuisine", so if you like we can award him the "mad scientist of the year trophy"..
So you don't think molecular gastronomy is its own branch of cuisine or you don't think it is cuisine at all? If it's the former I don't see how that takes him out of the running for top living chef and the latter seems pretty hard to defend since people eat his food.
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chef Rick Starr wrote: As a side note his most influential cookbook is Escoffier Cookbook and guide to the fine art of cookery. Pretty Ironic, at least I think so.
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Shel T
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Rahsaan wrote:Shel T wrote:I belong to a pretty large group of diners who don't acknowledge 'molecular gastronomy' as a "cuisine", so if you like we can award him the "mad scientist of the year trophy"..
So you don't think molecular gastronomy is its own branch of cuisine or you don't think it is cuisine at all? If it's the former I don't see how that takes him out of the running for top living chef and the latter seems pretty hard to defend since people eat his food.
Shel T wrote:technically of course he's in that category, alive, a qualified chef at the top of his particular game and certainly people eat what he serves.
But if that last criterion is the benchmark, then certainly a frequent target for condemnation here, Rachael Ray is in that category, along with Mario, emeril, ramsay etc. etc.
And BTW, I've paid a lot of money to try MG 3 times, the last occurrence at a very expensive restaurant here in L.A. called Bastide, now closed for lack of customers.
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Shel T wrote:Rahsaan wanted to know what my reference to having dined in 3 restos featuring molecular cooking and the last one mentioned, closed, had to do with Adria. Sorry, guess I should have expanded the statement to make it less obscure. Rightly or wrongly, Adria is associated with molecular cooking, many say the progenitor. I tried 3 of these places featuring this type of cooking, all claiming to be in the 'style' of Adria and unable to sustain a customer base for that genre of cooking. Conclusion; that Adria is Adria, that apart from El Bulli, the Fat Duck and a handful of others, molecular cooking or whatever label you'd like to pin on it, doesn't appeal to the general dining public..
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Daniel Rogov wrote:Perhaps I did not mention that I have dined at both El Bulli and at The Fat Duck (the first three times, the second only twice). I have also dined at several of the molecular palaces in New York City.
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