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Kitchen Remodel Week 38

by Jenise » Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:09 pm

Well things have slowed to a snail's pace, but this week's big news is that we got our first granite delivery. These are the two countertops that will be the eating bar in the kitchen and the buffet slab for the dining room cut from that one fancy slab.

Unfortunately, as usual for me, it did not go well the first time. On Monday they delivered they brought both pieces and installed the dining room piece first (photo below). When I saw it, I went ballistic. Instead of merely being slightly bevelled to reduce the risk of chipping, the edges were fairlky well rolled and the corners at each end fairly rounded. It was a 'traditional' version of a flat edge, not the tailored, contemporary square look I had asked for. But it was already in, and unfortunately, when they put it in (it goes onto an existing credenza-like buffet that we saved from the original house but refinished lamp black), they dinged the buffet in three places which I'll now have to have repaired/refinished AGAIN, making it clear that having them remove the piece and redo that edge would have have serious consequences.

The fabricator, by the way is duly remorseful and wants to remove/redo it. But heartsick as I am about it I think it would be making a bad situation even worse, since removal wouldn't be benign, so I'm choosing to live with it. But the other one went back to the shop.

The fabricator's excuse? He forgot. He simply forgot to instruct his finisher on exactly what this job was supposed to look like (or perhaps even, what I asked for, though that's hard to imagine since he adores contemporary design and wants to build his own contemporary home someday soon). And apparently the other guy was too stupid to ask, "What does our client want?" Pretty tough to take. I have looked forward to almost nothing more than seeing this particular piece of granite come in, and to see it all wrong was shattering. We can't even get another piece and try again--this was the last and only slab of this rare granite in the Pacific Northwest (in fact, it was shipped up from Portland).

The kitchen eating bar piece was delivered yesterday and it looks wonderful. The edgework is exactly what we asked for. Today they're bringing out and installing the pillars fabbed from the same granite that will hold up the nine inch wide, 10 foot long raised serving counter that will separate the working prep counter and its attendant messes on the kitchen side from the eating counter and entertainment/den side of the room. Once those are in, the glass guy can come measure for the narrow reed glass panels that will span the distance between each of the pillars. The glass will allow light to pass through but keep the dust and debris on the cook's side. The serving counter will also be cut from the fancy slab, but instead of having a matching edge to the bar top, it's been hand-chiselled to create what's called a 'live edge' on both sides.
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Re: Kitchen Remodel Week 38

by Jeff Grossman » Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:52 pm

Jenise, I am so sorry that they marred your beautiful granite. I hope that you can, in time, focus on the stone and not on the misshapen edges.
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Re: Kitchen Remodel Week 38

by Karen/NoCA » Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:16 pm

Would love to see the photo....I did not see the link to it. Sorry about the granite and the damage to your other piece. I can only imagine how crushing it was for you.
I sure was a nervous wreak when ours was delivered. They did some of the fitting adjustments outside on a work table they brought, and the piece was carried in and out a few times. It was nerve wracking.
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Re: Kitchen Remodel Week 38

by Jenise » Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:46 pm

Jeff Grossman/NYC wrote:Jenise, I am so sorry that they marred your beautiful granite. I hope that you can, in time, focus on the stone and not on the misshapen edges.


Thanks, Jeff, I'm already kinda there. I couldn't have even written this post on Monday or Tuesday. :| Good thing is, the dining room buffet is separated from the kitchen by a rock wall--you can't see one from the other, so no one in the dining room will be wondering why the edgework is slightly different.
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Re: Kitchen Remodel Week 38

by Jenise » Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:53 pm

Karen/NoCA wrote:Would love to see the photo....I did not see the link to it. Sorry about the granite and the damage to your other piece. I can only imagine how crushing it was for you.
I sure was a nervous wreak when ours was delivered. They did some of the fitting adjustments outside on a work table they brought, and the piece was carried in and out a few times. It was nerve wracking.


Karen, couldn't make the photos come up. They're there in Picasso, but when I browse with the WLDG browser to attach them, they're not where I think they should be. Tried twice! (Problem's in the way I manage Picasso--not forum software. I've had the issue before.)
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Re: Kitchen Remodel Week 38

by Mike Filigenzi » Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:43 pm

Y'know, just the words "Kitchen Remodel Week 38" are enough to strike terror into the hearts of otherwise staunch homeowners.

Bet you'll have one hell of a kitchen-warming party once this is all done!
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Re: Kitchen Remodel Week 38

by Mark Lipton » Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:34 am

Jenise,
You have earned enough good karma for several lifetimes with this remodel job. I'm sorry that it wasn't done correctly, but I hope that, in the end, it won't spoil your enjoyment of the marvelous granite surface that you got.

Good luck! (you've earned it)
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Re: Kitchen Remodel Week 38

by Jenise » Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:00 pm

Mark, Mike and everybody, thanks. Sympathy helps!

Btw, the granite guy is begging me to let him redo the botched dining room piece. He's not proud of it. Trouble is, I'm not sure we can take the removal/re-installation. He swears he'll do no more damage, but....
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Re: Kitchen Remodel Week 38

by Chris » Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:51 am

The granite is absolutely beautiful - I don't think photos would do it justice. (I was kitty sitting while Jenise and Bob were in Atlanta so saw it first-hand.)
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Re: Kitchen Remodel Week 38

by Jenise » Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:46 am

Chris wrote:The granite is absolutely beautiful - I don't think photos would do it justice. (I was kitty sitting while Jenise and Bob were in Atlanta so saw it first-hand.)


It's pretty jaw-dropping, isn't it? I mean, I don't think I've ever seen ugly granite, but I went through every slab in a football stadium sized warehouse and found a handful of beautiful granites I could have been happy with (had to have a lot of black in it, so many gorgeous granites weren't even on my radar), then went to a second warehouse/showroom and found this which relegated everything else I'd seen before to a distant third place. It's just that special. The granite guy put it best, that most granites you just look at the surface, but with this one you look into it, like a river.
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Re: Kitchen Remodel Week 38

by Carrie L. » Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:02 am

Jenise wrote:
Chris wrote:The granite is absolutely beautiful - I don't think photos would do it justice. (I was kitty sitting while Jenise and Bob were in Atlanta so saw it first-hand.)


It's pretty jaw-dropping, isn't it? I mean, I don't think I've ever seen ugly granite, but I went through every slab in a football stadium sized warehouse and found a handful of beautiful granites I could have been happy with (had to have a lot of black in it, so many gorgeous granites weren't even on my radar), then went to a second warehouse/showroom and found this which relegated everything else I'd seen before to a distant third place. It's just that special. The granite guy put it best, that most granites you just look at the surface, but with this one you look into it, like a river.


It must have a "wave" pattern. Those are my favorite granites. You will never tire of looking at it.
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Re: Kitchen Remodel Week 38

by Jenise » Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:56 am

Carrie, it does. But it's like many fine rivulets of molten metals--both silver and gold that flow around large thumb-sized facets of topaz and are sometimes interrupted by a fist-sized clod of white squartz. The 'water' is brownish black--dark but softened--with the occasional dollop of warm brown that looks like somebody poured the last of a cup of coffee-with-one-cream into the river. It's so glitzy that it would have been too-too to have used it everywhere, but just one counter in each room juxtaposed with the purposefully drab absolute black anticado we're using on the working side of the kitchen, it works. It also speaks to all the colors and materials we're using--leathery blacks, warm woodsy caramel browns, stainless steel grays and offwhites--as well as being compatible in tone to the huge rock fireplace nearby. Seeing it all together, it's so perfect that one might guess that the rock was the inspiration piece that drove all the other choices, as compared to it actually being one of the last things we committed to.
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