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Riesling tasting

by Gary Bobier » Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:45 pm

In a few weeks I will be hosting a group of 10 tasters. We will be tasting 7 different bottles. One from France and the rest from Germany. The total cost of the wine should be about $120. The German wines will range from a Kabinett to an eiswine. I will not be serving a TBA due to cost issues. For a comparative note I will be serving a bottle of Blue Nun quality wine. My question is what do I serve with the wine. I normally serve 4-5 different plates of various foods Served family style that change every month. Considering I am an Italian trained Chef most of the food has that flair. I have read that Asian food is the best compliment. I am trying to keep a food budget of $5-6 per person.

Any help would be great


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Re: Riesling tasting

by Howie Hart » Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:36 pm

Hi Gary and welcome. I once saw a tee shirt that said "God created fish to go with Riesling". Actually, there are few foods that won't pair with Riesling, but if you want to show off the wine, you would probably want to avoid anything highly seasoned. Grilled chicken thighs, pork chops and/or grilled fish, and perhaps a wilted spinach salad or cucumber and tomato salad would work.
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Re: Riesling tasting

by Bob Henrick » Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:42 pm

Gary Bobier wrote:In a few weeks I will be hosting a group of 10 tasters. We will be tasting 7 different bottles. One from France and the rest from Germany. The total cost of the wine should be about $120. The German wines will range from a Kabinett to an eiswine. I will not be serving a TBA due to cost issues. For a comparative note I will be serving a bottle of Blue Nun quality wine. My question is what do I serve with the wine. I normally serve 4-5 different plates of various foods Served family style that change every month. Considering I am an Italian trained Chef most of the food has that flair. I have read that Asian food is the best compliment. I am trying to keep a food budget of $5-6 per person.

Any help would be great

Gary


Gary, welcome to the WLDG. I am not about to tell you what to serve, but I would suggest that Blue Nun does not make a quality wine, regardless of what is allowed to be printed on the label. Unless you are comping the food then I do not see how one can keep the cost in the range you suggest. Like Howie, I think riesling will go well with lots of foods, especially typical German dishes, but one need to test the pairing before putting the food and wines before the guests.
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Re: Riesling tasting

by David M. Bueker » Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:06 pm

Gary,

Go ahead & serve the Blue Nun. I think it's really instructive to serve something like that so that folks can see the contrast.

As for food, I have dealt with this conundrum many, many times. I would certainly have a plate of cheeses (hard, not soft as they coat the mouth too much) & then something like a caramelized onion tart (a la Alsace). Marinate some pork in soy, ginger, garlic & a bit of hoisin then grill it. I have done that (or variants thereof) many times with great success. Ever done Thai satay? Those work really well. Skip the peanut sauce as it's too rich.

Most of the above works as finger food.
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Re: Riesling tasting

by Larry Greenly » Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:20 am

Gary's quoting the label: Blue Nun Qualitatswein. And, note, he said for comparison.
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Re: Riesling tasting

by Jenise » Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:24 am

Gary, note that David Bueker's title is "Riesling guru"--he is indeed that, his advice is solid.

And I'm not a riesling guru, but I can sure cook, so let me follow up. I agree that Asian works with Riesling very well, but in some ways that's default: not much else works well with all Asian foods, because of the tendency toward sweetness (honey glazes, oyster sauces, pad thai, for instance) and bold spice in Thai, Malaysian and Szechuan foods. But that doesn't mean it's the only food that works well with riesling. Smoked foods are wonderful with riesling. So are fatty pork foods. And just think, German food itself is neither sweet nor boldly spicey as a rule.

At the same time, I don't know where you are (in the northern hemisphere, summer menus are generally lighter) or what will draw your customers. I think you could actually do a comfortable fusion of Asian and German foods that will fit your Italian training and point of view.

Pissaladiere--a fresh baked flatbread smothered with caramelized onions and anchovies or flaked smoked trout. Risotto--I'll loan you one of my own dishes created as a riesling-pairing for an Italian-German fusion dinner: risotto with a chiffonade of fresh green cabbage and ham and diced green apple. Slices of grilled sausages served on wilted kale. Kartoffelknodel--did you know that Germany has it's own version of gnocchi? Kartoffelknodel are round, hand formed potato dumplings--I'm thinking these would be a good place to use some stir fried coins of thinly sliced chinese sausage. If you've never used it, it's WONDERFUL, a cured meat so already cooked, lightly sweet and well-salted. Not meant to be eaten on its own but used where, as is typical of the Chinese use of meats and hams, where a little goes a long way--I love it. And ravioli! Semmelknodel or Maultschen, I forget which, is a meat filled pasta dumpling--serve these in a light broth--take it Asian with lemon grass and a light sprinkle of chili flakes. Braised meats: smoked pork hocks braised with sauerkraut, juniper berries and gewurztraminer. Another one that I'm suddenly brain-dead on the name of except to tell you that it's two words that sound more French than German to my only-speaks-English brain, but a traditional German dish is a mixed braise where mixed smoked and unsmoked pork meats and sausage are braised together with kraut. I can guarantee you that the addition of star anise here works spectacularly well because I've done it, and it would be a great and easy restaurant prep because you can prepare large quantities and it holds forever. Another dish I have in mind would be a lot more summery, braised pork belly with a ginger glaze: http://imbinitchy.blogspot.com/2009/02/braised-pork-belly-with-ginger-and.html Who wouldn't go WOW when a plate of that was set in front of them?
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Re: Riesling tasting

by Jenise » Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:26 am

Oh, and another Chinese-y approach to ravioli: stuffed wonton skins. Lighter than an Italian ravioli and suitable for serving doused in a light broth--this would be a good seafood dish. How about a filling of ground shrimp with shitake mushroom? Serve two or three with a grilled baby bok choy half.
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Re: Riesling tasting

by Dave R » Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:00 am

Welcome to FLDG, Gary!

A simple German dish that I have found works well with Riesling is a variety of grilled sausages and sautéed onions on very lightly buttered spatzle. Depending upon portion size, that would fit into your budget.

Be sure to let us know what you decided to serve and how the dishes worked out with the Rieslings.
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Re: Riesling tasting

by Dale Williams » Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:16 pm

Most of the bases covered here. For the Kabinett/Spatlese level, I like David's idea of tarte flambe/flammekueche (and Jenise's pissaladiere is same general idea), and sausages work well too (or Jenise's choucroute idea especially if you cook the kraut in Riesling). The sausages come probably stand up to Auslese, too. Almost anything with ginger. Last Riesling themed dinner we did (Salil visiting) I think we did pork braised in Riesling, gingered sweet potatoes, and some 5-spice apples.

For the Eiswein, I personally prefer by itself or just cheese.
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by Linda R. (NC) » Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:22 pm

Gary Bobier wrote:In a few weeks I will be hosting a group of 10 tasters. We will be tasting 7 different bottles. One from France and the rest from Germany. The total cost of the wine should be about $120. The German wines will range from a Kabinett to an eiswine. I will not be serving a TBA due to cost issues. For a comparative note I will be serving a bottle of Blue Nun quality wine. My question is what do I serve with the wine. I normally serve 4-5 different plates of various foods Served family style that change every month. Considering I am an Italian trained Chef most of the food has that flair. I have read that Asian food is the best compliment. I am trying to keep a food budget of $5-6 per person.

Any help would be great


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You've gotten a lot of good advice and suggestions, but I'm just going to add my 2 cents worth anyway. Here is a recipe that I've made several times, and a Riesling was suggested as a match.

http://www.myspeakerscorner.com/forum/i ... mid=520797
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Re: Riesling tasting

by David M. Bueker » Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:51 am

Come back & let us know what you did Gary. (I see from his profile he checked back the other day.)
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