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Gary Barlettano
Pappone di Vino
1909
Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:50 pm
In a gallon jug far, far away ...
Howard wrote: Starschmucks makes pretty good tasting coffee flavored milk drinks but their plain coffee just doesn't do it for me. I think it's too heavily roasted but that's just me. And I do seek out the un-chains but often their coffee is only marginally better than commercial grade stuff, sometimes considerably better but it's still rare to have a really exceptional cup of coffee.
Gary Barlettano wrote:Howard wrote: Starschmucks makes pretty good tasting coffee flavored milk drinks but their plain coffee just doesn't do it for me. I think it's too heavily roasted but that's just me. And I do seek out the un-chains but often their coffee is only marginally better than commercial grade stuff, sometimes considerably better but it's still rare to have a really exceptional cup of coffee.
Howard, if, like me, you do not appreciate the BBQ'ed beans prepared by the Caffeine Cowboys on every corner of the galaxy, then you might appreciate products from Peet's Coffee & Tea. This company which is currently located in Emeryville, CA and soon to move to Alameda, CA is the antithesis to Starbuck's. They hand-roast, deep-roast and slow-roast their coffees without burning them. Every order is roasted to order, packaged while it's still hot, and shipped the same day. I'll spare you the sales pitch and simply suggest that you head to that website. For the folks in the SF Bay Area, they have a storefront in Emeryville now in which you can sample all their coffees not unlike a wine tasting.
Howard wrote:(Didn't know where to put this)
This is a coffee tasting note. My daughters came back from Oaxaca the other day and brought me some organic coffee, grown, roasted and ground in Oaxaca. I gave up coffee 4 or 5 years ago on a regular basis as I found the occasional withdrawal too much hassle to put up with. But every once in a while, I'll have a half a cup or a half decaf half caffeinated cup of coffee if I've been up all night. It really wasn't a big deal for me to give it up because it's so hard to find a really good cup of coffee. Starschmucks makes pretty good tasting coffee flavored milk drinks but their plain coffee just doesn't do it for me. I think it's too heavily roasted but that's just me. And I do seek out the un-chains but often their coffee is only marginally better than commercial grade stuff, sometimes considerably better but it's still rare to have a really exceptional cup of coffee.
Anyway, here's what the label on the stuff the kids brought back says: (I'm sorry but I don't know how to put accents on the Spanish. I'll have to learn)
Union de Guerrero Pochutla, Oaxaca Mexico
100% Cafe Pluma Organico
I brewed this 1 tablespoon to 1 cup boiling water in a French Press type pot with just tap water for 5 minutes before pressing. I added no milk/cream or sugar.
Beautiful chocolately brown color with some reddish highlights. The aroma fills the kitchen. That in and of itself is sort of meaningless, I've smelled the most wonderful coffee smells in the past and been most disappointed by the flavor. But this is exceptional coffee. It's got a rich mouthfeel that surprised me. There is an intrinsic sweetness that is very subtle but adds to the richness. Waves of deep authentic coffee flavor coat my tongue and palate and there really are distinct cocoa notes that are quite pleasant. There is just a touch of sharp or bitter to keep it structured but if this was wine, and I was talking about tannins, I'd say they were well integrated and not obtrusive at all. There's even a definite, moderately long and very pleasant finish.
Truly remarkable. This is what coffee is supposed to taste like, I believe.
Gary Barlettano
Pappone di Vino
1909
Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:50 pm
In a gallon jug far, far away ...
ChefCarey wrote:They don't have a presence in Berkeley anymore? They used to be just across Shattuck near The Cheese Board (Stuart and I were discussing this in a former thread.)
Gary Barlettano wrote:ChefCarey wrote:They don't have a presence in Berkeley anymore? They used to be just across Shattuck near The Cheese Board (Stuart and I were discussing this in a former thread.)
I'm certain that particular coffee shop is still there by which you probably mean the orginal Peet's founded by Alfred Peet back in 1966. Now, there are many Peet's, although they are not as omnipresent and pervasive as Starbuck's.
I was referring to their roasting plant and headquarters in Emeryville which they will soon leave for bigger and better digs in Alameda.
By the way, Jerry Baldwin, the fellow who bought Peet's from Alfred Peet and made it what it is today, was one of the founding fathers of Starbuck's.
Spent some time in Puerto Escondido (in Oaxaca.) Stayed in a place right on the ocean.
Howard wrote:Chef Carey wrote:Spent some time in Puerto Escondido (in Oaxaca.) Stayed in a place right on the ocean.
The girls didn't know anything about the water in the plastic bags, they didn't see that at Huatulco, where they stayed for a few days. They DID however, give me a few details on how they bought this coffee. Turns out they were having dinner in some little place on the beach and a peddler walked by with the coffee for sale. They bought it on a lark, never expecting it to be exceptional coffee.
Howie Hart
The Hart of Buffalo
6389
Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:13 pm
Niagara Falls, NY
coolChefCarey wrote:.... when I moved to Berkeley in 1968.
Howie Hart wrote:coolChefCarey wrote:.... when I moved to Berkeley in 1968.
Howie Hart
The Hart of Buffalo
6389
Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:13 pm
Niagara Falls, NY
ChefCarey wrote:... come to think of it, it was a helluva two year period.
Howie Hart wrote:ChefCarey wrote:... come to think of it, it was a helluva two year period.
Mine was not as exciting as your two years, but it was an interesting time: '68 - Parris Island, Camp Lejeune, Camp Pendleton, Okinawa, Vietnam; '69 - Vietnam, 1 week on a ship (landed on Okinawa the same day as the Moon landing), Okinawa (while all my friends at home were at Woodstock), Treasure Island (spent Columbus Day watching a parade in SF) and finally home again.
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