Everything about food, from matching food and wine to recipes, techniques and trends.

Generic Cheese Preferences

Moderators: Jenise, Robin Garr, David M. Bueker

no avatar
User

Howie Hart

Rank

The Hart of Buffalo

Posts

6389

Joined

Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:13 pm

Location

Niagara Falls, NY

Generic Cheese Preferences

by Howie Hart » Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:05 pm

In the supermarket dairy aisle (not the gourmet cheese aisle), there are limited choices of the most popular cheeses. These usually include cheddar, Swiss, mozzarella, American, Colby, and Monterrey Jack. For plain munching, I've always like sharp cheddar (not extra sharp). Around here that usually means NY State sharp cheddar, and they never disappoint. It's good in mac & cheese, grilled cheese sandwiches and paired up with sliced pepperoni on Triscuits. Swiss is my least favorite for munching, but I like it on French onion soup (topped with Romano). American is my least favorite, however, I've often bought a white Swiss-American blend that is great for cheeseburgers or steak & cheese subs. It tastes similar to provolone but melts nicer. It usually is only available in 5 lb. packages - pre-sliced. I prefer whole milk mozzarella (Sorrento - made in Buffalo) on my pizza and Colby or Jack on tacos. I was thinking about this last night and thought it might be worth discussing.
Chico - Hey! This Bottle is empty!
Groucho - That's because it's dry Champagne.
no avatar
User

Mike Filigenzi

Rank

Known for his fashionable hair

Posts

8187

Joined

Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:43 pm

Location

Sacramento, CA

Re: Generic Cheese Preferences

by Mike Filigenzi » Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:24 pm

For basic cheese, I go with either sharp or extra-sharp cheddar. There are a couple of supermarket brands here that are consistently decent for almost any application that cheddar tastes good in. I think we usually buy Tillamook.

Otherwise, we go with cheese made by smaller concerns.
"People who love to eat are always the best people"

- Julia Child
no avatar
User

Shel T

Rank

Durable Bon Vivant

Posts

1748

Joined

Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:56 pm

Location

20 miles from the nearest tsunami

Re: Generic Cheese Preferences

by Shel T » Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:26 pm

I also like sharp cheddar, or extra-sharp for that matter, and Monterey Jack. Gjouda, preferably smoked, gruyere and emmentaler, provolone, buffalo mozzarella, brie and camembert, and...
Well LOL, as am doing this off the top of my head, guess I like cheeses and am not exactly particular about which ones!
Nullum gratuitum prandium
no avatar
User

Ian Sutton

Rank

Spanna in the works

Posts

2558

Joined

Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:10 pm

Location

Norwich, UK

Re: Generic Cheese Preferences

by Ian Sutton » Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:40 pm

I don't do basic cheese.

We're lucky to have a fine cheese stall on the market and for the amount we buy, just getting a generic slab of cheddar just doesn't work for me.

They do a stonking gruyere which is surprisingly compatible with good wines, which if I were pushed, would say that is my 'go to' cheese.

Best cheeses tasted recently are the very creamy goudas from Borough Market nr. London Bridge. Chasing artisan products doesn't always deliver a noticeable improvement, but this is a transformation of what young & aged gouda can / should taste like.

regards

Ian
Drink coffee, do stupid things faster
no avatar
User

Jenise

Rank

FLDG Dishwasher

Posts

43596

Joined

Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm

Location

The Pacific Northest Westest

Re: Generic Cheese Preferences

by Jenise » Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:48 pm

Howie, I usually have a chunk of sharp Tillamook in the fridge for tacos, etc. That's about as 'generic' as I get--the unbranded varieties here on the west coast are usually rather dull in flavor and rubbery in texture. I also buy Jarlsberg swiss in large hunks occasionally--but again, that's branded, not generic.
My wine shopping and I have never had a problem. Just a perpetual race between the bankruptcy court and Hell.--Rogov
no avatar
User

Mark Lipton

Rank

Oenochemist

Posts

4338

Joined

Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:18 pm

Location

Indiana

Re: Generic Cheese Preferences

by Mark Lipton » Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:08 pm

Jenise wrote:Howie, I usually have a chunk of sharp Tillamook in the fridge for tacos, etc. That's about as 'generic' as I get--the unbranded varieties here on the west coast are usually rather dull in flavor and rubbery in texture. I also buy Jarlsberg swiss in large hunks occasionally--but again, that's branded, not generic.


Mmm... Tillamook sharp (and extra sharp!). My Oregonian relatives take pity on me every Xmas and send me a 5 lb block of the stuff. It lasts about a month around here. :P

Mark Lipton
no avatar
User

Carl Eppig

Rank

Our Maine man

Posts

4149

Joined

Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:38 pm

Location

Middleton, NH, USA

Re: Generic Cheese Preferences

by Carl Eppig » Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:21 pm

We don't get Tillamook in these parts, but we get as we are sure Howie does Hellava Good Cheddar. It comes from upstate New Yawk.
no avatar
User

Howie Hart

Rank

The Hart of Buffalo

Posts

6389

Joined

Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:13 pm

Location

Niagara Falls, NY

Re: Generic Cheese Preferences

by Howie Hart » Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:45 pm

Carl Eppig wrote:We don't get Tillamook in these parts, but we get as we are sure Howie does Hellava Good Cheddar. It comes from upstate New Yawk.
There are a few good makers of Cheddar located in the area of Western NY, south of the Thruway between Rochester and Buffalo. Heluva Good is one. Others include Cuba and Yancy's Fancy. I believe Kraft Foods started out in the upstate NY area and their Cracker Barrel cheddar is not bad, but no better than the generic NY State cheddar sold in supermarkets. I've never seen Tillamook either.
Chico - Hey! This Bottle is empty!
Groucho - That's because it's dry Champagne.
no avatar
User

Linda R. (NC)

Rank

Wine guru

Posts

1121

Joined

Sun Jul 09, 2006 4:09 pm

Location

North Carolina

Re: Generic Cheese Preferences

by Linda R. (NC) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:53 pm

I like most of the "supermarket varieties" as long as they're real cheese and not some processed cheese product. My favorite, and most used, is sharp cheddar (or extra sharp, super sharp, etc. - the sharper the better). I use this for my mac & cheese, Mexican dishes, and the goulash (American Chop Suey) that I'm making tonight. Usually runs $4-5/lb.

I love American for sandwiches and burgers. Again, natural cheese slices, not the processed stuff. I also use cheddar, colby jack and pepper jack slices.
no avatar
User

Carl Eppig

Rank

Our Maine man

Posts

4149

Joined

Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:38 pm

Location

Middleton, NH, USA

Re: Generic Cheese Preferences

by Carl Eppig » Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:17 pm

Howie Hart wrote:Others include Cuba and Yancy's Fancy.


Had some Yancy's and bacon on a half pound burger at Uno Chicago Grill today. Mmmmmm good!
no avatar
User

Robert Reynolds

Rank

1000th member!

Posts

3577

Joined

Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:52 pm

Location

Sapulpa, OK

Re: Generic Cheese Preferences

by Robert Reynolds » Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:50 pm

I like Tillamok cheddar, and Kerrygold from Ireland. I love to sample unfamilaiar cheeses of all kinds at the local Whole Paycheck, and have to limit my trips there because I tend to overspend. :oops:
ΜΟΛ'ΩΝ ΛΑΒ'Ε
no avatar
User

Shel T

Rank

Durable Bon Vivant

Posts

1748

Joined

Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:56 pm

Location

20 miles from the nearest tsunami

Re: Generic Cheese Preferences

by Shel T » Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:04 pm

Okay...after reading the entire thread, I think maybe it's appropriate to define the word 'generic'.
"Relating to, or common to, or descriptive of all members of a genus or entire group or class".
So, generic doesn't necessarily mean "bad" and branded doesn't necessarily mean "good".
For example, Camembert and Brie, both of which have received 'protected designation of origin' status are generic as long as the Camembert is from the Normandy region and the Brie from the Province of Brie.
Swiss cheese is as generic as you can get but it includes emmental, gruyere and several hundred other cheeses.
Velveeta and Cheez Whiz are "brands", and I'll leave it to the individual as to whether they're gourmet or not...
So all this long-winded rhetoric is for the purpose of saying that I'll continue to enjoy my 'generic' cheddar or Swiss or Gouda or Brie if it comes from your generic supermarket, or from Whole Foods or the Beverly Hills Gourmet Cheese Shop!
Oh yes, some will be better than others, but you can't (or generically, "one" can't) eat caviar or lobster or foie gras every night of the week because it becomes so..."common"!
Nullum gratuitum prandium
no avatar
User

Karen/NoCA

Rank

Hunter/Gatherer

Posts

6579

Joined

Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:55 pm

Re: Generic Cheese Preferences

by Karen/NoCA » Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:27 pm

I haven't found a cheese I did not like....I love Maytag Blue, Tillamok sharp and extra sharp, and many others. For my everyday cheese I keep Kraft 2 % milk Cheddar and Jack. They taste fine at room temp. and melt beautifully. In tacos and casseroles, no one can tell the difference. Swiss is probably my least favorite unless I go with Gruyere. I actually love Velveeta but will not keep it around....too tempting. :oops: All cheeses seem to have their place. I try different ones all the time and while I may like them, I may never repeat buy. There is a smoked cheddar that I really like called Hoffman's I think, but it may be a cheese food.
no avatar
User

Howie Hart

Rank

The Hart of Buffalo

Posts

6389

Joined

Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:13 pm

Location

Niagara Falls, NY

Re: Generic Cheese Preferences

by Howie Hart » Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:52 pm

Shel T wrote:Okay...after reading the entire thread, I think maybe it's appropriate to define the word 'generic'...
From my original post
In the supermarket dairy aisle (not the gourmet cheese aisle), there are limited choices of the most popular cheeses. These usually include cheddar, Swiss, mozzarella, American, Colby, and Monterrey Jack.
I don't find Brie, Camembert, Roquefort, aged Parmesan, etc. in the dairy aisle. So, the original intent was for store brands or national brands, but there's nothing wrong with a little thread drift. I love all those cheeses you mentioned, but I generally reserve them for something special and find them in the gourmet section of the supermarket or specialty cheese shops.
Chico - Hey! This Bottle is empty!
Groucho - That's because it's dry Champagne.
no avatar
User

Shel T

Rank

Durable Bon Vivant

Posts

1748

Joined

Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:56 pm

Location

20 miles from the nearest tsunami

Re: Generic Cheese Preferences

by Shel T » Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:36 pm

Howie Hart wrote:
Shel T wrote:Okay...after reading the entire thread, I think maybe it's appropriate to define the word 'generic'...
From my original post
In the supermarket dairy aisle (not the gourmet cheese aisle), there are limited choices of the most popular cheeses. These usually include cheddar, Swiss, mozzarella, American, Colby, and Monterrey Jack.
I don't find Brie, Camembert, Roquefort, aged Parmesan, etc. in the dairy aisle. So, the original intent was for store brands or national brands, but there's nothing wrong with a little thread drift. I love all those cheeses you mentioned, but I generally reserve them for something special and find them in the gourmet section of the supermarket or specialty cheese shops.

I think there was a fair amount of thread drift before it got to my post and thought I was just adding to the fondue pot.
Perhaps we're having a slight geographical discontinuity as many of the supermarkets out here have all the cheeses mentioned in one section, kinda a generic free-for-all.
Nullum gratuitum prandium
no avatar
User

Ian Sutton

Rank

Spanna in the works

Posts

2558

Joined

Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:10 pm

Location

Norwich, UK

Re: Generic Cheese Preferences

by Ian Sutton » Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:46 pm

Howie
If you like sharp, then keep an eye out for 'Lincolnshire Poacher' (the county being not too far away from us). It certainly has quite a bit of 'grip' :lol: Potentially big enough production to see it exported, albeit probably to specialist cheese shops rather than supermarkets.
regards
Ian
Drink coffee, do stupid things faster
no avatar
User

ChefJCarey

Rank

Wine guru

Posts

4508

Joined

Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:06 pm

Location

Noir Side of the Moon

Re: Generic Cheese Preferences

by ChefJCarey » Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:21 pm

I'm surprised Tillamook has such a wide distribution! I always have a hunk of sharp in the reefer, usually extra sharp, too. Their butter is a good, reliable everyday butter, too. I keep the Rogue blue around on a regular basis, too. Pretty good cheese availability around here.
Rex solutus est a legibus - NOT
no avatar
User

ChefJCarey

Rank

Wine guru

Posts

4508

Joined

Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:06 pm

Location

Noir Side of the Moon

Re: Generic Cheese Preferences

by ChefJCarey » Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:25 pm

Shel T wrote:Okay...after reading the entire thread, I think maybe it's appropriate to define the word 'generic'.
"Relating to, or common to, or descriptive of all members of a genus or entire group or class".
So, generic doesn't necessarily mean "bad" and branded doesn't necessarily mean "good".
For example, Camembert and Brie, both of which have received 'protected designation of origin' status are generic as long as the Camembert is from the Normandy region and the Brie from the Province of Brie.
Swiss cheese is as generic as you can get but it includes emmental, gruyere and several hundred other cheeses.
Velveeta and Cheez Whiz are "brands", and I'll leave it to the individual as to whether they're gourmet or not...
So all this long-winded rhetoric is for the purpose of saying that I'll continue to enjoy my 'generic' cheddar or Swiss or Gouda or Brie if it comes from your generic supermarket, or from Whole Foods or the Beverly Hills Gourmet Cheese Shop!
Oh yes, some will be better than others, but you can't (or generically, "one" can't) eat caviar or lobster or foie gras every night of the week because it becomes so..."common"!


After you been havin' steak for a long time, beans, beans taste fine...
Rex solutus est a legibus - NOT
no avatar
User

Larry Greenly

Rank

Resident Chile Head

Posts

7036

Joined

Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:37 am

Location

Albuquerque, NM

Re: Generic Cheese Preferences

by Larry Greenly » Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:33 am

Usually store brands of real cheese: sharp or extra-sharp cheddar, mozzarella and sometimes swiss. Expensive brands if they go on a good sale. And the occasional wedges of blue cheese, brie or real parmesan. BTW, I just finished a jar of Danish blue in oil and spices. Yummy!
no avatar
User

Jenise

Rank

FLDG Dishwasher

Posts

43596

Joined

Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm

Location

The Pacific Northest Westest

Re: Generic Cheese Preferences

by Jenise » Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:37 am

Shel T wrote: Beverly Hills Gourmet Cheese Shop!


Now there's a piece of heaven--best cheese shop in America. My forays to it always took hours because It's divine to just stand there and SMELL.
My wine shopping and I have never had a problem. Just a perpetual race between the bankruptcy court and Hell.--Rogov
no avatar
User

Shel T

Rank

Durable Bon Vivant

Posts

1748

Joined

Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:56 pm

Location

20 miles from the nearest tsunami

Re: Generic Cheese Preferences

by Shel T » Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:32 pm

Jenise wrote:
Shel T wrote: Beverly Hills Gourmet Cheese Shop!


Now there's a piece of heaven--best cheese shop in America. My forays to it always took hours because It's divine to just stand there and SMELL.


Yep, worth setting aside a lot of time for as they're also selling imported charcouterie, truffles, wines, caviar etc...could take all day!
Nullum gratuitum prandium
no avatar
User

Doug Surplus

Rank

Wine guru

Posts

1106

Joined

Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:17 am

Location

Phoenix AZ

Re: Generic Cheese Preferences

by Doug Surplus » Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:49 pm

Tillamook or a Vermont extra-sharp cheddar.
Doug

If God didn't want me to eat animals, why did He make them out of meat?
no avatar
User

Rahsaan

Rank

Wild and Crazy Guy

Posts

9422

Joined

Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:20 pm

Location

New York, NY

Re: Generic Cheese Preferences

by Rahsaan » Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:37 am

My baseline generic cheese is Pecorino Romano because it's usually well-priced and so salty that it can be forgiving if it is not the ultimate best in quality. I believe Locatelli is the brand I see in most stores across the U.S. where I shop.
no avatar
User

Brian K Miller

Rank

Passionate Arboisphile

Posts

9340

Joined

Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:05 am

Location

Northern California

Re: Generic Cheese Preferences

by Brian K Miller » Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:46 am

I guess my baseline cheese is usually grated or shredded domestic parmesan, because my primary use for "baseline" cheese is tossed with pasta and olive oil.

For snacking, I just cannot resist an American cheese that is just amazing. Even though I have been given a "talking to" for bringing it to work, I LOVE LOVE LOVE Petaluma California's Cowgirl Creamery Red Hawk.
...(Humans) are unique in our capacity to construct realities at utter odds with reality. Dogs dream and dolphins imagine, but only humans are deluded. –Jacob Bacharach

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: ClaudeBot, Google AgentMatch and 0 guests

Powered by phpBB ® | phpBB3 Style by KomiDesign