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Shichimi spice powder question

by Frank Deis » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:23 pm

I came across this and thought it must be like the Chinese five spice powder. I have not found it in a store (asian markets in NJ are very weak on Japanese items). When I looked up recipes I saw it was totally different from the Chinese mixture. Have you used it, bought it, made it? I am curious about it. If you make it how long do you keep it?

Different online sources have different ingredients listed, here is one. You dry the orange or tangerine peel well in the oven then grind. Be careful not to grind the sesame seeds all the way to a paste, you want a powder you can sprinkle:

hemp seeds, shelled
ground red chili powder
sansho (Szechuan peppercorns)
dried mandarin orange peel
toasted, shredded nori
poppy seeds
white sesame seeds

And hey, Dude, where do I get hemp seeds?

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Re: Shichimi spice powder question

by Cynthia Wenslow » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:30 pm

Frank Deis wrote:And hey, Dude, where do I get hemp seeds?


Not that this will help you, but I saw them in a store for the first time on Saturday in Missoula, Montana. I had never run across them before. No, I didn't buy any since I couldn't think of what I'd use them for.

The name of the grocery is Good Food Store. Seriously, that's the name of the place. :roll:
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Re: Shichimi spice powder question

by Frank Deis » Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:47 pm

I bought some Shichimi Togarashi on Amazon. It is surprising how much you can find there. I also found "kits" for Okonomiyaki pancakes, and the Okonomi sauce, and a special mayonnaise (Kewpie). Not the cheapest way to shop but when all that stuff arrives I will really be in business.

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Re: Shichimi spice powder question

by Stuart Yaniger » Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:48 pm

We have a jar of it in the cupboard. LOVE it on my ramen. It should be easy to source mail-order. Of course, it's on every Safeway shelf in California...
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Re: Shichimi spice powder question

by Dale Williams » Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:42 pm

We use it, Betsy has a Japanese pork chop recipe that uses it, and it's good as a noodle or rice topping. Different brands vary a lot in heat, some are really hot. But great stuff.
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PS Like anything with Sichuan peppercorns, it makes for a tough wine match.
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Re: Shichimi spice powder question

by Mike Filigenzi » Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:48 pm

So that's what that stuff is! My first encounter with it was in a ramen place here in Sacramento, where they kept little shakers of it on the tables. The first time I went there, I remember pulling one of the seeds out of my ramen bowl and wondering just what kind of herb was in that shaker.
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Re: Shichimi spice powder question

by Mark Lipton » Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:13 pm

I have a shaker jar of it that I inherited from my Japanese roommate in grad school. It's a must on most noodle dishes for me, but I use it exclusively as a condiment, not as a cooking ingredient (probably just showing my limited understanding of Japanese cooking).

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Re: Shichimi spice powder question

by Frank Deis » Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:37 pm

It is indeed a condiment -- sometimes the last step in a recipe says "serve soup and pass Shichimi for seasoning."

But it gets mentioned in a wide variety of recipes.

FWIW it's only supposed to last a couple of months, it is possible that if you have a bottle that's more than a year old, you aren't really tasting/smelling what you are supposed to be tasting/smelling. But that's true of most spices.

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Re: Shichimi spice powder question

by Dale Williams » Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:44 am

Mark Lipton wrote:I have a shaker jar of it that I inherited from my Japanese roommate in grad school. It's a must on most noodle dishes for me, but I use it exclusively as a condiment, not as a cooking ingredient (probably just showing my limited understanding of Japanese cooking).


Try this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/09/dinin ... ork&st=cse

I've also had "angry calamari" that is very good
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Re: Shichimi spice powder question

by Robert J. » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:44 pm

My sushi chef friend uses it to crust his tuna before he sears it. He also uses it in his spicy tuna mix for hand rolls.

I love the stuff.

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Re: Shichimi spice powder question

by Frank Deis » Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:36 pm

OK I am going to make an embarrassing admission. After ordering a bottle of this stuff from Amazon, and paying something like $8 shipping for a small bottle -- I went back to the "Japan" aisle in my nearest Asian supermarket and found it sitting on the shelf. I understand what happened, the picture on Amazon allowed me to have a realistic "search image." I went ahead and bought a bottle even though the other will be coming. Less than $2. And when I was looking for it before, I know I was standing with my head two feet from it searching and searching through all those Chinese and Japanese characters on the labels...

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Re: Shichimi spice powder question

by Larry Greenly » Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:37 pm

It'll be interesting to see which one you like better.

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