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Slow Cookerology?

by Greg H » Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:56 am

I received a slow cooker for Xmas and have never used one before. I have some questions that I hope those skilled in the art can provide some guidance. Also, a few favorite recipes would be most welcome, especially ones that show the range of dishes that are appropriate for a slow cooker.

I should mention that this slow cooker has three temperature setting warm, low and high (I originally thought it allow me to dial in precise temps. I may have to purchase a temp controller to be able to do that with this device).

My first thought was that this type of cooking would lend itself well to dishes that are frequently prepared by braising. For example, meats that are best served by long slow cooking and become tender while still staying moist. I am thinking of cuts like chuck or perhaps chicken thighs. It might not lend itself well to leaner cuts that lack much connective tissue and tend to become dry and tough on long cooks, like chicken or turkey breast. But then, I realized that I was thinking of higher temp cooking where foods are easily driven through their optimum temperature. With this device, can you cook to a temperature and hold it there like sous vide, but without the fine control? For instance, can you prepare chicken breast as a curry, but only doing it at one of the lower temp settings avoid the typical dry chicken breast served in my local Indian restaurants? How about vegetables? Can you use the temperature control to allow them to cook for a long time, but without turning them to mush?
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Re: Slow Cookerology?

by Cynthia Wenslow » Fri Jan 02, 2009 2:16 pm

Greg, I think once you begin using it, you will love having a slow cooker.

Mine also has Low, High, and Keep Warm. It has a timer so that one can set it to cook for a particular time at one temp and then it automatically switches to Keep Warm, which is a great feature to stop things from turning to mush.

A book I really like is "Not Your Mother's Slow Cooker Cookbook" by Hensperger and Kaufmann. Each recipe has a recommendation for the size and shape of cooker they prefer, but I've found most are easily done in any cooker. The recipes are divided into chapters with the following headings:

Cooking Slow Motion
From the Porridge Pot
The Slow Cooker Soup Pot
Slow-Cooked Side Dishes, Vegetable Stews, and Stuffings
Rice and Other Grains
Not From the Slow Cooker Accompaniments
The New Fashioned Bean Pot
The Wonderful World of Chili
Savory Sauces, Pizza, and Pasta Casseroles
Poultry, Game Birds, and Rabbit
Beef, Veal, and Venison
Pork and Lamb
Ribs and Wings
Fish and Shellfish
Slow Cooker Puddings, Cakes, and Breads
Fruit Desserts, Sauces, and Compotes
Fruit Butters, James, and Chutneys

This shows you the range of things that are successfully cooked in a slow cooker.

I particularly like to cook dried beans in it and also roast winter vegetables, along with the more standard soups, stews, braises, grains etc.

If there is a particular dish or food you are contemplating, just ask and I'll look up a recipe or give you some tips.
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Re: Slow Cookerology?

by Jenise » Fri Jan 02, 2009 3:22 pm

Greg Hollis wrote:I received a slow cooker for Xmas and have never used one before. I have some questions that I hope those skilled in the art can provide some guidance. Also, a few favorite recipes would be most welcome, especially ones that show the range of dishes that are appropriate for a slow cooker.


Greg, I don't use mine very often, so I'm not the best person to give you advice, but...

Yes re braising. Throw a seared chuck roast in there with a sliced onion, a glass of wine, and whatever else you think will make a good sauce and let her rip. It will also make one of the tenderest corned beefs you've ever had--probably what I use it for most often. Yes re the curry--bearing in mind that the chicken or turkey you use would need to be seared first to stay in tact if you're not using whole, bone-in pieces. And yes re vegetables. I've never made a pot-au-feu in a crock, but the method should lend itself very well to that preparation though of course you'd want to add the vegetables later and in stages commensurate with their varied cooking times. As with stove top cooking, there's really no one-size-fits-all solution to most things beyond chili.

You're lucky to have one with the three settings you have. I might use mine more often if I had a third option besides High (which induces a bubbling simmer) or Low (near dead).
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Re: Slow Cookerology?

by Jenise » Fri Jan 02, 2009 3:23 pm

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Greg Hollis wrote:I received a slow cooker for Xmas and have never used one before. I have some questions that I hope those skilled in the art can provide some guidance. Also, a few favorite recipes would be most welcome, especially ones that show the range of dishes that are appropriate for a slow cooker.


Greg, I don't use mine very often, so I'm not the best person to give you advice, but...

Yes re braising. Throw a seared chuck roast in there with a sliced onion, a glass of wine, and whatever else you think will make a good sauce and let her rip. It will also make one of the tenderest corned beefs you've ever had--probably what I use it for most often. Yes re the curry--bearing in mind that the chicken or turkey you use would need to be seared first to stay in tact if you're not using whole, bone-in pieces. And yes re vegetables. I've never made a pot-au-feu in a crock, but the method should lend itself very well to that preparation though of course you'd want to add the vegetables later and in stages commensurate with their varied cooking times. As with stove top cooking, there's really no one-size-fits-all solution to most things beyond chili.

You're lucky to have one with the three settings you have. I might use mine more often if I had a third option besides High (which induces a bubbling simmer which somewhat defeats the whole idea) or Low (near dead).
I end up starting things on high then switching to low for the duration because neither setting's optimum.
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Re: Slow Cookerology?

by Karen/NoCA » Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:25 pm

This is a very tasty recipe. I did use the apple in the sauerkraut.

Slow Cooker Sauerkraut and Pork Tenderloin

SERVES 6

Ingredients
2 lbs sauerkraut
2 lbs pork tenderloins
1/4 cup caraway seed
4 garlic cloves, mashed
Optional
sliced green apple (if you like it a little less sour you can add the apple)
Directions
Place Sauerkraut with its juice into crockpot and caraway seeds, garlic (and apple if desired) and stir to mix together.
place pork tenderloin on top and cover with lid.
Cook on low for 9 hours or on high for 5.
Serve with mashed potatoes and enjoy.
I sprinkled a little brown sugar over the dish the last twenty minutes.
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Re: Slow Cookerology?

by Carl Eppig » Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:26 pm

We have recommeded this one before. It is The Best of Electric Crockery Cooking by Jacqueline Heriteau. It is cica 1976 but can be found easily online. We use her recipes regularly.

We just bought a new stay & go Hamilton Beach 6 qt cooker today. Our very old Hamilton Beach still works fine, but the outside is too gourdy to bring anywhere!
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Re: Slow Cookerology?

by Greg H » Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:46 am

Thanks everyone. I will look for the books suggested as place to get started. In the meantime, if someone has a recipe for an Indian or Thai curry that they make in a slow cooker, please post it.

By the way, I checked the temps for the three settings on this cooker. 150, 195 and 208F for warm, low and high respectively.
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Re: Slow Cookerology?

by Linda R. (NC) » Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:52 am

Greg Hollis wrote:By the way, I checked the temps for the three settings on this cooker. 150, 195 and 208F for warm, low and high respectively.

Only 13 degrees between low and high? :?
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Re: Slow Cookerology?

by Greg H » Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:06 am

Yep, I was hoping for low closer to 175, but that is not where it stabilized.
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Re: Slow Cookerology?

by Cynthia Wenslow » Sat Jan 03, 2009 1:07 pm

I have one for an Indian chicken curry that I'll post in a separate thread.
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Re: Slow Cookerology?

by Maria Samms » Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:26 am

I love my slow cooker too Greg. The one thing I can't seem to get right, though, is beef stew. My potatoes and carrots are cooked in about 2 1/2 hrs on low, so I really can't throw them in at the beginning. And I have tried to actually cook the meat on my warm setting (about 150 degrees like yours) to get a more tender meat. Otherwise, after about 6 hrs, the meat is tender but dry. Also, my slow cooker "spits" water when it's on it's low setting, so I end up cracking the lid open slightly...not sure if this is drying the meat out too? But it does help to reduce the liquid.

I do have great luck with tomato based stuff like Giambotta, chili, and Bolognese. Soups and stocks also come out awesome, as does rice pudding.

Maybe someone can post a good beef stew recipe...I have tried the ones from the Crockery cook books and have not been impressed. The stews come out so much better on the stovetop or in the oven.
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Re: Slow Cookerology?

by Carl Eppig » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:12 pm

Maria Samms wrote:Maybe someone can post a good beef stew recipe...I have tried the ones from the Crockery cook books and have not been impressed. The stews come out so much better on the stovetop or in the oven.


Maria, here are three beef stew recipes for the slow pot:

BELGIAN BEEF STEW: (Carbonnades `A La Flamande)
For slow (crock/crockery) pot; serve with mashed potatoes and carrots.

3-4 lb Rump, round, or boneless chuck roast
1/2 tbl Olive oil
1/2 tsp Salt
1 tsp Pepper
2 tbl Butter
2 Sliced Bermuda onion (approx 4 cups)
2 Cloves garlic minced (or 1 tsp bottled)
1 Bottle dark beer or ale
2 tbl Brown sugar
1/2 tbl Salt
1/2 tsp Granulated garlic (garlic powder)
2 Springs parsley
1 Large bay leaf
1/2 tsp Dried thyme
1 1/2 tbl Cornstarch
2 tbl White wine vinegar

Cut beef into 1-1/2 to 2 inch pieces. Brown meat in olive oil in large skillet. Remove to bowl and season with 1/2 tsp salt and the pepper. Cook onion in same skillet with butter until medium brown. Stir in minced garlic for last minute. Put onion/garlic into slow-cooker with meat and its juices on top. Bring beer to boil in skillet with sugar, scraping up pan juices. Add to cooker with remaining salt, garlic powder, parsley, bay leaf, and thyme. Cover and cook on low for 8 hours. Drain stew in colander, reserving liquid. Pick parsley stems and bay leaf out if possible. Reduce liquid in sauce pan until it measures two cups. Dissolve cornstarch in vinegar, and add to liquid. Simmer till sauce thickens (3-4 min). Return colander contents and sauce to cooker, and keep warm till serving time. Serve on warm platter sprinkled with minced or dry parsley.


BOEUF ‘A LA MODE:
4 lbs Top or bottom round roast
Salt and pepper
¼ C Brandy (warmed)
1 C Dry red wine
1 C Beef stock or bouillon
8 oz Frozen pearl onions (half bag)
6-8 Carrots peeled and sliced
2 T Butter
1 ½ T Cornstarch
2 T Water
Crock Pot

Slice fat off of beef with boning knife. Render it in a large cast iron skillet, and discard. Rub salt and pepper into meat and brown it on all sides in skillet. Move meat to crock pot. Warm and light brandy and pour over meat. Add wine and stock. Cook on low for eight or nine hours. Thaw out onions on a paper towel, and add peeled and sliced carrots to them. At the three or three and half hour point melt butter in skillet and deglaze it. Brown the veggies in it, and add to meat. Turn heat up to high for half an hour to regain lost heat and return heat to low. When all is done, remove and separate meat and veggies. Put meat back in pot and keep veggies warm; after putting liquids in saucepan, and reducing it to two cups. Add cornstarch dissolved in water off heat, and bring back to boil. Add to meat until ready to eat. Remove meat and slice, and remove sauce to gravy boat. Serve with veggies, and roasted or mashed potatoes.

BISTECCA ALLA PIZZAIOLA:
The Beef:

1 Medium onion chopped
2 tbl Olive oil
1 1/2 lb (or slightly larger) Eye of round roast
28 oz can Crushed (ground) tomatoes
1 tsp Crushed garlic
1 tsp Salt
1/4 tsp Black pepper
1/4 tsp Crushed red pepper
1/2 tsp Granulated garlic (powder)
1 tbl Dry oregano
Slow pot

The Polenta:

2 C Water
1 C Polenta (cornmeal)
1/2 tsp Salt
2 tbl Butter
1/2 C Grated imported Provolone or other grating cheese
Loaf pan

Slice roast crosswise into one inch thick steaks. In a skillet, sauté onion in oil for three minutes. Add steaks and brown for two minutes on each side. Mix remaining sauce ingredients in a bowl. Add onions, steaks, and tomato sauce to slow pot. Cook on low for eight hours.

In a saucepan, boil water and add polenta, stirring rapidly. Cook until it looks like grandma’s porridge. Stir in salt, butter, and cheese. Pour into greased loaf pan, and bake at 350º for 20 minutes. Cool and cut into 1/2 inch slices.

Serve the beef and polenta, both covered with sauce, with salad.
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Re: Slow Cookerology?

by Maria Samms » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:12 pm

Excellent Carl! Thank you so much for posting these...I will give them a go. Much appreciated!
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Re: Slow Cookerology?

by ChefJCarey » Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:18 am

Fruit Butters, James, and Chutneys

Who is this "James" guy? And why are you cooking him?
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by Cynthia Wenslow » Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:30 pm

ChefJCarey wrote:Fruit Butters, James, and Chutneys

Who is this "James" guy? And why are you cooking him?


Roscoe. Because he keeps skipping chat! ;)
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Re: Slow Cookerology?

by Greg H » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:27 pm

I have picked up the "Not Your Mother's Slow Cooker Cookbook" (Thanks Cynthia) and it looks very helpful.

I also made the Belgian Beef Stew RCP (Thanks Carl). This worked out very well.
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Re: Slow Cookerology?

by Matilda L » Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:38 am

Reviving the discussion a year later...

The Francophile has been venturing into the world of slow cooking with his new slow cooker. He's getting the times and temperatures working well now, but a funny thing is that spices seem to lose their "oomph". I wondered first if it was just that the recipe book he's been using (the one that came with the cooker) was just very timid when it came to how much flavouring to put in. But the amount of chilli, cumin, ground coriander, and what have you that he has been putting in would give a reasonable flavour in an oven-cooked casserole of the same size. Tonight, he cooked a dish based on chicken and kumara ... it was great as a mild stew, but the spices just seemed to disappear.

Anyone else notice this in slow cookers? Any views?
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by ChefJCarey » Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:00 am

Matilda L wrote:Reviving the discussion a year later...

The Francophile has been venturing into the world of slow cooking with his new slow cooker. He's getting the times and temperatures working well now, but a funny thing is that spices seem to lose their "oomph". I wondered first if it was just that the recipe book he's been using (the one that came with the cooker) was just very timid when it came to how much flavouring to put in. But the amount of chilli, cumin, ground coriander, and what have you that he has been putting in would give a reasonable flavour in an oven-cooked casserole of the same size. Tonight, he cooked a dish based on chicken and kumara ... it was great as a mild stew, but the spices just seemed to disappear.

Anyone else notice this in slow cookers? Any views?


I think you must have gotten one of those recalled cookers. You know, the ones with the teeny Romanian spice thieves hidden inside.
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Re: Slow Cookerology?

by Greg H » Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:23 am

Matilda,

Some spices stand up to longer cooking times better than others. For instance, cumin loses its flavor when simmered for a long time. For spices such as these, I add them to the slow cooker shortly before serving.
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Re: Slow Cookerology?

by Matilda L » Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:42 pm

Some spices stand up to longer cooking times better than others


This makes sense to me. I'll suggest that he might try adding the spices later in the process.


Chef, I don't think it could be Romanian spice thieves. I had the house sprayed for them at the end of last winter.
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Re: Slow Cookerology?

by Bob Henrick » Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:19 pm

Greg H wrote:Matilda,

Some spices stand up to longer cooking times better than others. For instance, cumin loses its flavor when simmered for a long time. For spices such as these, I add them to the slow cooker shortly before serving.


Hi Greg,

I have never noticed that about cumin, but maybe I haven't paid enough attention. Cumin as you know a chief ingredient in lots of Mexican dishes including chili. In fact given the current temperatures here in Kentucky this weekend, I made a big pot of it yesterday. spices used in my chili include 3T of a decent chili powder, 2T of cumin and 2 of paprika, I usually add in about a tablespoon of cayenne, but yesterday I used 8 roasted Big Jim peppers (with their juice) instead. For a change I Sometimes use a heaping T of ground New Mexico (medium heat) chili peppers and leave out the cayenne. As long as I was changing things around I also used 2 cups of ESJ "That Old Black Magic" and that gave it an extra little something. Of course now I have about a gallon of chili to eat all by myself since it is too warm for the wife.
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Re: Slow Cookerology?

by Carl Eppig » Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:52 pm

Have to admit, I'm a Chile heretic. To wit, we prepare the beans! in the crock pot, and then add it to the rest of stuff on the stovetop to finish.

FRIJOLES:

1 lb Pinto beans
6 C. Water
1 Lg onion chopped
2 cloves (1 tsp) Minced garlic
1/2 tsp Crushed red pepper
2 tsp Chile powder
1/4 tsp Baking soda
1 tsp Ground cumin
1/2 tsp Garlic powder
2 tsp Lawry salt
1.tsp Black pepper
3 tbl Olive oil

Rinse and pick over beans, and put in crock pot, cover with six cups of water and soak overnight. In the morning add remaining ingredients, and cook on low for 24 hours.

To finish Chile prepare the meat, tomatoes, other veggies, and spices in your largest pot on the stovetop, and dump all the frijoles in. Turn up heat and cook until ready.
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Re: Slow Cookerology?

by Greg H » Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:36 pm

Bob Henrick wrote:
Greg H wrote:Matilda,

Some spices stand up to longer cooking times better than others. For instance, cumin loses its flavor when simmered for a long time. For spices such as these, I add them to the slow cooker shortly before serving.


Hi Greg,

I have never noticed that about cumin, but maybe I haven't paid enough attention. Cumin as you know a chief ingredient in lots of Mexican dishes including chili. In fact given the current temperatures here in Kentucky this weekend, I made a big pot of it yesterday. spices used in my chili include 3T of a decent chili powder, 2T of cumin and 2 of paprika, I usually add in about a tablespoon of cayenne, but yesterday I used 8 roasted Big Jim peppers (with their juice) instead. For a change I Sometimes use a heaping T of ground New Mexico (medium heat) chili peppers and leave out the cayenne. As long as I was changing things around I also used 2 cups of ESJ "That Old Black Magic" and that gave it an extra little something. Of course now I have about a gallon of chili to eat all by myself since it is too warm for the wife.


I find that this is true for many things. For example, Coq au Vin and Bouef Bourguignon profit from a splash of raw wine at the end. I add cumin with the other spices in chili, but add it again a few minutes before serving and find it improves the flavor. YMMV
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Re: Slow Cookerology?

by Bob Henrick » Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:52 pm

Greg H wrote:I find that this is true for many things. For example, Coq au Vin and Bouef Bourguignon profit from a splash of raw wine at the end. I add cumin with the other spices in chili, but add it again a few minutes before serving and find it improves the flavor. YMMV


Since I have about a gallon of this chili leftover, I can surely try adding a touch more cumin just a few minutes before serving it next time. An old dog can still learn new tricks. :D
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