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Tips on cooking a turkey

by Maria Samms » Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:35 am

Hey everyone,

I need some turkey help. This is the first time I have made a turkey in over 10 yrs, so I am definitely rusty. I brined it overnight (which I have never done either), and as per David, rinsed and dried it off and now it's resting, uncovered, in the Fridge.

It's an 11lb turkey, and the directions say to cook it at 350 for 2 1/2 - 3 hrs. Does that sound right? And do I cover it part of the time? Does anyone cover the breasts with butter (or oil, in our cased) soaked cheese cloth? Your tips and tricks are much appreciated!
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Re: Tips on cooking a turkey

by John Tomasso » Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:55 am

A little late to be brushing up on rusty skills, no?

The timing sounds about right, figuring between 15 and 20 minutes per lb, x 11 lbs =somewhere between 165 and 220 minutes.
As always, roasting is an art, not a science, and your thermometer is your friend. Have everything ready to go because the bird may be ready sooner or later than you think. Also, don't forget standing time - at least 20 minutes and half an hour would be better.

Rather than cover the breasts we just start ours upside down. Turning the bird midway can be a tricky procedure though, and not for the faint of heart. So the cheesecloth method might be best.

This year, since it's just 3 of us (though now I'm informed it may be 5 :roll: ) I removed the breast and legs from the turkey. I will roast them separately. I already made my stock, so most of the carcass is already headed for the trash. I'll give the legs about half an hour head start, then put the whole breast in, which should result in everything being done at the same time.

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Re: Tips on cooking a turkey

by Redwinger » Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:58 am

Maria Samms wrote:Hey everyone,

I need some turkey help. This is the first time I have made a turkey in over 10 yrs, so I am definitely rusty. I brined it overnight (which I have never done either), and as per David, rinsed and dried it off and now it's resting, uncovered, in the Fridge.

It's an 11lb turkey, and the directions say to cook it at 350 for 2 1/2 - 3 hrs. Does that sound right? And do I cover it part of the time? Does anyone cover the breasts with butter (or oil, in our cased) soaked cheese cloth? Your tips and tricks are much appreciated!


I'm far from a turkey expert but here's what I do:

I roast at 325. We have a 12lb bird and I estimate it should be done in 2.5-3 hours (unstuffed). Internal temp = 165

Butter the breast :oops:.

When the bird is browned sufficiently , tent with alum foil.

Let the turkey rest for 20 minutes of so before carving.

I've seen a lot of internet chatter about roasting the turkey breast side down, but have not tried that approach.

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Re: Tips on cooking a turkey

by Greg H » Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:25 am

IIRC, you have a ceramic smoker. Are you going to roast it there? That is where I am doing mine.
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Re: Tips on cooking a turkey

by Redwinger » Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:27 am

Komado alert!!! Paging Bob H. :wink:
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Re: Tips on cooking a turkey

by John Fiola » Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:32 am

One trick a friend taught me was to prevent the turkey from drying out.

Set the oven to 425-450F and try to get the turkey into the oven as fast as possible.
Let the turkey cook at that temperature for 10-15 min before turning the oven down to 350.

This will 'sear' the turkey so that the juices will stay in.

Hope this helps....
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Re: Tips on cooking a turkey

by Jenise » Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:46 am

Maria Samms wrote:Hey everyone,

I need some turkey help. This is the first time I have made a turkey in over 10 yrs, so I am definitely rusty. I brined it overnight (which I have never done either), and as per David, rinsed and dried it off and now it's resting, uncovered, in the Fridge.

It's an 11lb turkey, and the directions say to cook it at 350 for 2 1/2 - 3 hrs. Does that sound right? And do I cover it part of the time? Does anyone cover the breasts with butter (or oil, in our cased) soaked cheese cloth? Your tips and tricks are much appreciated!


Maria, are you cooking your bird stuffed or unstuffed? If unstuffed, I'd back the temp down to 300 and plan to cook it 30 minutes longer--"low and slow" can apply here, too. As for the cheesecloth thing, did that ONCE. Never again. Will have to fish that post off of FLDG Classic for you.
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Re: Tips on cooking a turkey

by Jenise » Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:55 am

Maria, that old post about the cheeseclothed turkey? Here it is:

Date: 24-Nov-2001 17:24
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The 18-pound stuffed, fresh, all-natural turkey went into a 325 degree oven at ten minutes to 1:00 on Thursday afternoon. It was draped in a butter-soaked cheesecloth, the first time I would try this method of turkey roasting.

A little over two hours later, my buddy Annabelle and I were taking a break and trying to talk ourselves into popping cork on that Gosset champagne--after all, this was a holiday--when my one-year old Viking oven suddenly went eerily quiet. The fan had stopped. We stared at each other, brows furrowed, and before we could make a move either in the direction of the Gosset or the oven, an alarm I didn't even know the oven had started beeping furiously. We rushed over to it and found that the digital display no longer announced the temperature, but read "F2".

This was bad. The oven had turned itself off and was swearing at me. So what does a girl do? Goes and wakes her husband up from another one of those post-surgical naps and instructs the buddy to meanwhile open the Gosset. After all, we now had a crisis of considerable magnitude on our hands, and we were going to need help staying calm.

We got out the manual and pored over it, all three of us, and determined (sip, sip) that the oven had overheated. Well, GREAT, maybe we can live with that but we can't live with the beeping. We couldn't even think with that going on. So Bob went and cut power at the circuit breaker which helped a lot. In the new relative quiet we could ponder what to do. Bob, ever the geek, suggested we go online and see if we could find a FAQ about overheating on the Viking website. Annabelle, ever the nurturer, suggested we call the Buttterball hotline--they couldn't help but maybe they'd CARE. I, ever the pragmatist, poured more bubbly.

Thus libated, my cook's instincts finally returned to the fore and I opened the oven door to assess the damage. After all, if the oven didn't come back on I would need to try to finish the bird at a neighbor's and I'd need to estimate the duration of inconvenience. "Call the Pope, it's the Shroud of Turin!," somebody said, on gazing at our bird. Not laughing, intent on my mission, I whipped out my instant-read thermometer. Horrors! The thermometer read 160 degrees! It had only been in the oven just over 2 hours, but Henrietta was done! I read both breasts, both thighs, with the same results. How could this be? So no wonder I got F2'd--regardless of what the digital display said, THE OVEN HAD INDEED BEEN WAY TOO HOT.

So we pulled the turkey, tented it with foil, and drained away the pan juices, already disturbingly dark, for the au jus. Bob tried the oven and indeed it now came back on, so we returned the turkey to it to rest at 200 degrees for the duration of it's expected 4-5 hour cooking time.

When we carved the turkey around 7:00, we were all quite amazed because this was indeed the very best turkey we'd ever roasted. The dark meat was done perfectly, and the breast meat was so moist, it carved like ham. Whew!

Of course the question remains, what made my oven do that and, though it now operates just fine (an oven thermometer confirms that it's heating and holding temperatures properly), when will it do that again? Yes, that sacred bond of trust between me and my equipment is broken and all the reassurance from Viking in the world (when they finally come back to work and answer my email) won't restore my faith.

What's the moral of this story? Probably isn't one, except maybe--buy analog. Digital's fine for alarm clocks, but not ovens.
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Re: Tips on cooking a turkey

by ChefJCarey » Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:59 am

Gosh, sometimes I wonder why I even bothered to write a book on COOKING TECHNIQUES!
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by David M. Bueker » Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:02 pm

Didn't know you had Joseph. Is it still in print?

When you only do something once a year or less it's easy to forget stuff.
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by Cynthia Wenslow » Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:16 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:Didn't know you had Joseph. Is it still in print?


It is indeed a fine book, and very helpful. Chef on Fire. I've given it to several beginning cooks.

Just don't try to use the index. ;)
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Re: Tips on cooking a turkey

by Maria Samms » Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:46 pm

Thanks everyone for the tips!

I will be doing another turkey in my Kooker this weekend...but the kiddos will not eat anything smokey...so it's for us adults.
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Re: Tips on cooking a turkey

by Maria Samms » Thu Nov 27, 2008 4:20 pm

Jenise - Thanks...the turkey is not stuffed...I have it in the oven at 300 degrees...NO CHEESE CLOTH...LOL!
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by ChefJCarey » Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:38 pm

Cynthia Wenslow wrote:
David M. Bueker wrote:Didn't know you had Joseph. Is it still in print?


It is indeed a fine book, and very helpful. Chef on Fire. I've given it to several beginning cooks.

Just don't try to use the index. ;)


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Re: Tips on cooking a turkey

by ChefJCarey » Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:39 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:Didn't know you had Joseph. Is it still in print?

When you only do something once a year or less it's easy to forget stuff.


Amazon thinks so. :?
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Re: Tips on cooking a turkey

by David M. Bueker » Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:54 am

Joseph - as someone who has two cabinets full of cookbooks I don't generally go looking for more. Honestly I didn't know which book you were talking about.
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