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HELP!! NEED WINE PAIRING FOR MY DUCK!! (Includes Recipe)

by AaronW » Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:11 pm

I'm making the following duck recipe for dinner tonight and I desperately need a proper wine pairing. White and Red. I'm just not sure if the sauce is going to be too sweet and drastically reduce my pairing possibilities. Help forumites!! :?


DUCK A L'ORANGE

For duck
1 tablespoon kosher salt
1 teaspoon ground coriander
1/2 teaspoon ground cumin
1 teaspoon black pepper
1 (5- to 6-lb) Long Island duck (also called Pekin)
1 juice orange, halved
4 fresh thyme sprigs
4 fresh marjoram sprigs
2 fresh flat-leaf parsley sprigs
1 small onion, cut into 8 wedges
1/2 cup dry white wine
1/2 cup duck stock, duck and veal stock*, chicken stock, or reduced-sodium chicken broth
1/2 carrot
1/2 celery rib

For sauce
1/3 cup sugar
1/3 cup fresh orange juice (from 1 to 2 oranges)
2 tablespoons white-wine vinegar
1/8 teaspoon salt
2 to 4 tablespoons duck or chicken stock or reduced-sodium chicken broth
1 tablespoon unsalted butter, softened
1 tablespoon all-purpose flour
1 tablespoon fine julienne of fresh orange zest, removed with a vegetable peeler

Special equipment: an instant-read thermometer; a 13- by 9-inch flameproof roasting pan
Roast duck:
Put oven rack in middle position and preheat oven to 475°F.

Stir together salt, coriander, cumin, and pepper. Pat duck dry and sprinkle inside and out with spice mixture. Cut 1 half of orange into quarters and put in duck cavity with thyme, marjoram, parsley, and 4 onion wedges.

Squeeze juice from remaining half of orange and stir together with wine and stock. Set aside.

Spread remaining 4 onion wedges in roasting pan with carrot and celery, then place duck on top of vegetables and roast 30 minutes.

Pour wine mixture into roasting pan and reduce oven temperature to 350°F. Continue to roast duck until thermometer inserted into a thigh (close to but not touching bone) registers 170°F, 1 to 1 1/4 hours more. Turn on broiler and broil duck 3 to 4 inches from heat until top is golden brown, about 3 minutes.

Tilt duck to drain juices from cavity into pan and transfer duck to a cutting board, reserving juices in pan. Let duck stand 15 minutes.

Make sauce:
While duck roasts, cook sugar in a dry 1-quart heavy saucepan over moderate heat, undisturbed, until it begins to melt. Continue to cook, stirring occasionally with a fork, until sugar melts into a deep golden caramel. Add orange juice, vinegar, and salt (use caution; mixture will bubble and steam vigorously) and simmer over low heat, stirring occasionally, until caramel is dissolved. Remove syrup from heat.

Discard vegetables from roasting pan and pour pan juices through a fine-mesh sieve into a 1-quart glass measure or bowl, then skim off and discard fat. Add enough stock to pan juices to total 1 cup liquid.

Stir together butter and flour to form a beurre manié. Bring pan juices to a simmer in a 1- to 2-quart heavy saucepan, then add beurre manié, whisking constantly to prevent lumps. Add orange syrup and zest and simmer, whisking occasionally, until sauce is thickened slightly and zest is tender, about 5 minutes. Serve with duck.

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Re: HELP!! NEED WINE PAIRING FOR MY DUCK!! (Includes Recipe)

by Ian Sutton » Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:19 pm

My 1st thought would be some Nebbiolo's would go very nicely, but there are a lot of flavours in the dish which (for me) makes life harder

Other suggestions might be complex / spicy reds maybe Musar, various rhone wines (not necessarily something really expensive) or Mas de Daumas Gassac - maybe even a ridge zin with a bit of age... Nothing overtly bold though (for me the Mas de Daumas Gassac might be pushing it)

Difficult for me to suggest a white, though there will be plenty of decent to good matches I'm sure.

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Re: HELP!! NEED WINE PAIRING FOR MY DUCK!! (Includes Recipe)

by David Lole » Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:56 pm

A youngish Pinot Noir might work. Something with some vigour and darker fruits - a 2002 Premier Cru from Vosne or Chambolle, perhaps?

I agree with Ian about the whites - hard call. My only suggestion that just might be agreeable - a top class Pinot Gris or even a Gewurtztraminer from Alsace.
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Re: HELP!! NEED WINE PAIRING FOR MY DUCK!! (Includes Recipe)

by Bernard Roth » Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:35 pm

For a white, Gewurz or Riesling Spatlese would be good.

For red, because of the sweet sauce, a young fruity wine is best. Beaujolais Village or Cru from 2003 or younger.
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Re: HELP!! NEED WINE PAIRING FOR MY DUCK!! (Includes Recipe)

by Jeff_Dudley » Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:47 pm

Hmmm, for me the orange juice and cumin make the spice/acid/sweetness combination far trickier for a red. But I would try something in a non-riserva, young, fruitier Chianti myself, to get something to dance on that acid. For a white, no doubt I would use Champagne.
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Re: HELP!! NEED WINE PAIRING FOR MY DUCK!! (Includes Recipe)

by Dale Williams » Sat Oct 11, 2008 8:11 pm

I'm with Bernard (and others). I'd add this isn't the time to splurge with wine.
My first choice would be white, not bone dry. Gewurz, halbtrocken to off-dry Riesling, sec-tendre to drier demi-sec Chenin.
For reds, usually I'm Burg/PN with duck. But with that sauce, if I had to do red I'd stick to a inexpensive fruity Bourgogne or CalPN, Beaujolais, young Chianti, Dolcetto, Beaujolais,Valpocella, etc.
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Re: HELP!! NEED WINE PAIRING FOR MY DUCK!! (Includes Recipe)

by Carl Eppig » Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:56 pm

Calls for Cab Franc and Chenin Blanc. Go Loire.
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Re: HELP!! NEED WINE PAIRING FOR MY DUCK!! (Includes Recipe)

by Howie Hart » Sun Oct 12, 2008 5:58 am

I've made cornish hens in orange sauce a few times, using the duck recipe in a French cook book I've had since the 70s. It recommends St. Emilion. However, Carl's idea sound good to me.
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Re: HELP!! NEED WINE PAIRING FOR MY DUCK!! (Includes Recipe)

by Bob Parsons Alberta » Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:49 am

At my local BBQ house, no doubt about it! Ridge Lytton Springs.
But I like many of the other suggestions here, will try some of them.
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Re: HELP!! NEED WINE PAIRING FOR MY DUCK!! (Includes Recipe)

by Dave R » Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:06 pm

Good Lord, what is wrong with you guys? Spending your time on an internet message board when you could be in a stadium watching the greatest sporting events ever?

Nevermind.

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Re: HELP!! NEED WINE PAIRING FOR MY DUCK!! (Includes Recipe)

by Kathy Howe » Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:41 pm

I'd probably go with a Riesling or Gewurtraminer.

It'd be interesting to know what you did try and how it went.
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Re: HELP!! NEED WINE PAIRING FOR MY DUCK!! (Includes Recipe)

by AaronW » Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:58 pm

Awesome suggestions all!! I ended up trying a vin de pays burgundy called "Hob Nob" that was tremendously and, strangely I might add, beaujolais-esce with the high fruit and what I call "bubblegummy-ness" on the nose and palate. Good for the pairing (went great with the duck itself) but strange in terms of what I would expect from a french pinot noir. Anyhoo, worked out fine. Also tried an off dry Pfalz riesling that was a fabulous match for the sauce.

Another wonderful wine/food experience overall, and made far better by this tremendous food and wine friendly "forumite fratern(soror)ity".

Later, Aaron



P.S. The wines also matched particularly well with the sides- Thyme Garlic Mashed Potatoes and sauteed Baby Zucchini. Good times!
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Re: HELP!! NEED WINE PAIRING FOR MY DUCK!! (Includes Recipe)

by Jeff_Dudley » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:16 pm

Aaron,

Did you say that the high fruit and "bubblegummy-ness" came from a box o' wine ? I've smelled that particular essence in wine before, but it was from pasteurized stuff. :shock:
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Re: HELP!! NEED WINE PAIRING FOR MY DUCK!! (Includes Recipe)

by Jeff Grossman » Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:16 am

I dislike Beaujolais that has the bubble-gummy smell.
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Re: HELP!! NEED WINE PAIRING FOR MY DUCK!! (Includes Recipe)

by AaronW » Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:00 am

Jeff_Dudley wrote:Aaron,

Did you say that the high fruit and "bubblegummy-ness" came from a box o' wine ? I've smelled that particular essence in wine before, but it was from pasteurized stuff. :shock:


No, Jeff it was from a cork stopped (synthetic) bottle. But yeah, "bubblegum" is a very common beaujolais note. Especially "Nouveau" style.
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