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Related to the Canola thread, what oil to fry in?

by Maria Samms » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:48 am

This got me thinking about what it the best oil to fry in, since Canola doesn't seem like a good option with the "fishy" smell. I know that peanut is the best, but unfortunately, that is not an option for us, since my son is allergic to peanuts.

So, what's the next best? Corn? Vegetable? Light OO?
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Re: Related to the Canola thread, what oil to fry in?

by Carl Eppig » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:52 am

Light OO. We use olive oil 90% of the time. If OO flavor is called for we use Sicilian EVOO; otherwise the Light version (no flavor, but healthy).

When you say "fry" do you mean "saute"? We rarely deep fry, but when we do we use peanut oil. You could use Light OO or even "vegetable shortening."
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Re: Related to the Canola thread, what oil to fry in?

by Larry Greenly » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:55 am

I'd go with the corn oil. It has a high smoke point, and I've noticed a number of asian cooks recommend it. If you want a higher smoke point oil with a neutral flavor, try grape seed oil. I always use that for sauteing meat.
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Re: Related to the Canola thread, what oil to fry in?

by Larry Greenly » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:59 am

Interestingly, pure olive oil, peanut oil and corn oil all have the same smoke point: about 410F. Grape seed oil about 446F.
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Re: Related to the Canola thread, what oil to fry in?

by Carl Eppig » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:08 am

Corn oil seems to be the sleeper. I was amazed that we could pop popcorn in unrefined corn oil, giving it an even more corny flavor.
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Re: Related to the Canola thread, what oil to fry in?

by Robin Garr » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:26 am

Tech data on smoke point notwithstanding, I like peanut oil for frying because anecdotally to me, it seems to take to high temperatures will. I also love roasted peanut oil for flavoring, but I think it's a little expensive for frying.

Of course, I rarely fry anyway. :)
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Re: Related to the Canola thread, what oil to fry in?

by Larry Greenly » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:35 am

Then get out your cotton gin, Robin. Cottonseed oil has a smoke point of about 450F.
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Re: Related to the Canola thread, what oil to fry in?

by Paul Winalski » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:26 pm

Cottonseed or corn oil for the high smoke point.

Since you're dealing with a food allergy problem, I'd steer clear of "vegetable shortening" unless you can be sure that no peanuts are involved, and none of the machinery in the manufacturing process are ever used for peanuts.

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Re: Related to the Canola thread, what oil to fry in?

by Robin Garr » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:41 pm

Larry Greenly wrote:Then get out your cotton gin, Robin. Cottonseed oil has a smoke point of about 450F.

Yah, yah, whatever. I like to eat peanuts and I like to wear cotton. I'm not all that hot on the reverse. ;)
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Re: Related to the Canola thread, what oil to fry in?

by Larry Greenly » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:59 pm

And Valvoline synthetic oil is probably much higher than cottonseed.
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Re: Related to the Canola thread, what oil to fry in?

by Mark Lipton » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:26 pm

Well, heck, we use silicone oil in lab all the time for those reactions operating at temperatures above the flash point of mineral oils (250°C aka 482 F for the unmetrified) -- and it's low-calorie to boot!

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Re: Related to the Canola thread, what oil to fry in?

by Celia » Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:16 pm

I like Grapeseed oil for almost everything that requires really hot oil - it heats really cleanly and doesn't smoke.
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Re: Related to the Canola thread, what oil to fry in?

by Paul Winalski » Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:00 am

Mark Lipton wrote:Well, heck, we use silicone oil in lab all the time for those reactions operating at temperatures above the flash point of mineral oils (250°C aka 482 F for the unmetrified) -- and it's low-calorie to boot!

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And probably fatal if consumed internally in quantity. :lol:
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Re: Related to the Canola thread, what oil to fry in?

by EY Han » Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:43 pm

celia wrote:I like Grapeseed oil for almost everything that requires really hot oil - it heats really cleanly and doesn't smoke.


Celia,

I would like to learn more about grapeseed oil. I think I tried it for the first time in my visit to the States recently, and I think that's all my mother is cooking with now. I was thinking of bringing some back to Israel with me, but my trip was just so short this time…

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Re: Related to the Canola thread, what oil to fry in?

by Celia » Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:05 pm

Hi E.Y.!

I'm in Australia, and we can buy grapeseed oil in the supermarkets here - the brand I buy is called Azalea and it's imported from Italy. It retails for about the same price as good olive oil here. What I like about it is that it can heat to very hot without smoking, and has a fairly neutral taste. I first heard about it on Simply Ming (a US cooking program), where Ming Tsai was touting its health benefits. There is more about it on wikipedia here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grape_seed_oil

FWIW, we've now used it for a couple of years (we no longer buy canola at all, except in a spray), and we've been delighted with it.

Cheers, Celia
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