Everything about food, from matching food and wine to recipes, techniques and trends.

What I learned today (Take Two)

Moderators: Jenise, Robin Garr, David M. Bueker

no avatar
User

Jeff Grossman

Rank

Lifelong Learner

Posts

8059

Joined

Sat Mar 25, 2006 7:56 am

Location

NYC

Re: What I learned today (Take Two)

by Jeff Grossman » Sat Dec 13, 2025 12:43 pm

Jenise, one of your signature recipes here is Tuscan Chicken with Porcini. So... you make it but never eat it?
no avatar
User

Jenise

Rank

FLDG Dishwasher

Posts

45320

Joined

Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm

Location

The Pacific Northest Westest

Re: What I learned today (Take Two)

by Jenise » Sat Dec 13, 2025 8:33 pm

Jeff, long-cooked porcinis are/were never a problem for me. However, the realization of their toxicity has made me discontinue making that dish--too much risk. Doctor's orders.

Mike, thanks for the link. Glad to know I have company. Have enjoyed reading stuff there. Here's an interesting factoid: China is a major exporter of porcini, most of it ending up in Europe. We used DNA-sequencing to identify three species of mushroom contained within a commercial packet of dried Chinese porcini purchased in London. Surprisingly, all three have never been formally described by science and required new scientific names. This demonstrates the ubiquity of unknown fungal diversity even in widely traded commercial food products from one of the most charismatic and least overlooked groups of mushrooms.

Interesting to differentiate between intestinal and inhalative reactions. My reactions were, of course, intestinal. HOWEVER, once upon a time I decided to grind dried porcinis to make a chile-mushroom rub for a whole filet mignon. When I opened the grinder to transfer its contents to a bowl? Instant asthma attack.

I'm reminded of being in Tuscany circa 2005 which was after my first anaphylactic reaction but before the 2nd and 3rd. We bought fresh vegetable tortellini from a Village market. Went home and cooked them for dinner--it only took three or four bites, and I was gone. Full body evacuation and violent head to toe itching on every inch of my body. Not at all understanding what happened, two days later we marinated the leftover tortellinis for a cold appetizer. This time I only ate two before I had a repeat of the first episode. And I have no idea what was in them. Given my location, in hindsight porcini would be a prime suspect but it could have been some other kind of funghi that I'm also allergic to but had not encountered before.

Speaking of all this I saw a commercial today for a CNN special this week: DEATH CAP, the Mushroom Murders.
My wine shopping and I have never had a problem. Just a perpetual race between the bankruptcy court and Hell.--Rogov
no avatar
User

Paul Winalski

Rank

Wok Wielder

Posts

9204

Joined

Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:16 pm

Location

Merrimack, New Hampshire

Re: What I learned today (Take Two)

by Paul Winalski » Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:01 pm

Jenise wrote:Speaking of all this I saw a commercial today for a CNN special this week: DEATH CAP, the Mushroom Murders.

I remember not being surprised when I first heard about the Mushroom Murders. After all, Australia is the Continent That Is Out To Kill You.

-Paul W.
no avatar
User

Mike Filigenzi

Rank

Known for his fashionable hair

Posts

8329

Joined

Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:43 pm

Location

Sacramento, CA

Re: What I learned today (Take Two)

by Mike Filigenzi » Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:55 pm

Wow, Jenise, that's really interesting regarding the Chinese mushrooms. Who would guess that investigating packaged mushrooms would be a way to find ones that were previously unknown to science?

That's a really harsh reaction you have. I guess you don't run into issues often enough to carry an Epi-pen, but if you lived in Italy it might be a consideration!

The mushroom murder thing brought back a memory involving the late Chef Joseph Carey. He was working on a crime novel in which several people were murdered by being given deadly mushrooms. He knew I had been involved in diagnosing poisonings by these and contacted me regarding appearance of symptoms, timing, etc. Don't know how far he got with that book before his health problems became severe.
"People who love to eat are always the best people"

- Julia Child
Previous

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: ClaudeBot, FB-extagent, Google Adsense [Bot] and 5 guests

Powered by phpBB ® | phpBB3 Style by KomiDesign