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Carl Eppig
Our Maine man
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:38 pm
Middleton, NH, USA
Howie Hart
The Hart of Buffalo
6389
Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:13 pm
Niagara Falls, NY
Jenise wrote:ChefCarey wrote:I think what John said is close to the mark - elegant simplicity and no fakery.
Chef, John, Howie, and Michael J:
Michael's comment about sopping up the juices, Howie's comment about corn on the cob and Chef's comment about restaurants together made something click in my head: to me, steak is knife and fork food, and fries are finger food. (I know, they don't have to be and in a restaurant setting I would not eat with my hands, but that's how I relate to them nonetheless). So, of course, is corn on the cob. And I tend to not like mixed-instrument entrees 'cuz I'm a girl and I can't stand the grubby fingerprints on the cutlery or my ever-present wine glass: I want to eat the whole meal with my hands OR with a knife and fork, but never both.
And since steak is about the last thing I order in restaurants, not even in Europe have I ordered a steak and fries. Seems odd looking back since I tend to order local classics when I travel (mussels and frites--done it!), but there it is.
MichaelJ wrote:Jenise wrote:ChefCarey wrote:I think what John said is close to the mark - elegant simplicity and no fakery.
Chef, John, Howie, and Michael J:
Michael's comment about sopping up the juices, Howie's comment about corn on the cob and Chef's comment about restaurants together made something click in my head: to me, steak is knife and fork food, and fries are finger food. (I know, they don't have to be and in a restaurant setting I would not eat with my hands, but that's how I relate to them nonetheless). So, of course, is corn on the cob. And I tend to not like mixed-instrument entrees 'cuz I'm a girl and I can't stand the grubby fingerprints on the cutlery or my ever-present wine glass: I want to eat the whole meal with my hands OR with a knife and fork, but never both.
And since steak is about the last thing I order in restaurants, not even in Europe have I ordered a steak and fries. Seems odd looking back since I tend to order local classics when I travel (mussels and frites--done it!), but there it is.
Fries are a finger food, unless it's steak frites. And you know, I have never ordered this in Europe either, but it's on my menu 9 out of 10 Fridays. Hey, what day is it? Friday! :
Mike Filigenzi
Known for his fashionable hair
8187
Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:43 pm
Sacramento, CA
Bill Spohn
He put the 'bar' in 'barrister'
9965
Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:31 pm
Vancouver BC
ChefCarey wrote:It is a *good* thing to order steak in a restaurant, especially a STEAKHOUSE! Quite often the chef will be able to purchase much better aged beef than you are able to find in your local supermarket.
Eric Ifune
Ultra geek
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:51 pm
Las Vegas, NV and elsewhere
Peter May
Pinotage Advocate
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Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:24 am
Snorbens, England
Bob Henrick
Kamado Kommander
3919
Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:35 pm
Lexington, Ky.
Peter May
Pinotage Advocate
3905
Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:24 am
Snorbens, England
wrcstl wrote:Since we are not major steak fans I was not going to reply but one side just jumps out. I agree with most that potatoes are the starch of choice. Baked potatoes are OK but I do not like french fries as they contain too much fat and pommes frites are great but good ones are terribly time consuming. For lack of a better word I will call my dish sauteed ptotatoes. Cut spuds into 1 1/2" cubes and partially cook in boiling water then drain. Just before serving put in a hot sautee pan with OO, minced garlic and fresh rosemary and brown. Taste is great, less fat and goes great with the steak, or in our case most anything you want to serve them with.
Walt
ChefCarey wrote:wrcstl wrote:Since we are not major steak fans I was not going to reply but one side just jumps out. I agree with most that potatoes are the starch of choice. Baked potatoes are OK but I do not like french fries as they contain too much fat and pommes frites are great but good ones are terribly time consuming. For lack of a better word I will call my dish sauteed ptotatoes. Cut spuds into 1 1/2" cubes and partially cook in boiling water then drain. Just before serving put in a hot sautee pan with OO, minced garlic and fresh rosemary and brown. Taste is great, less fat and goes great with the steak, or in our case most anything you want to serve them with.
Walt
I tend to disagree about the fat content of fried potatoes. Fry the right potato - Russet (Burbank) at the right temperatures - 350 - 360 degrees - the right number of times - 2 - in the right oil - peanut oil (a monounsaturated fat) eat them a couple of times a week, and I don't think they contribute much to the fat content of a diet. And they are damn good.
And, for what it's worth, I discern no appreciable distinction between "fried potatoes" and pommes de terre frites.
Jenise
FLDG Dishwasher
43581
Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
The Pacific Northest Westest
STEAKHOUSE! Quite often the chef will be able to purchase much better aged beef than you are able to find in your local supermarket.
Good french fries are my favorite side dish with EVERYTHING.
Jenise
FLDG Dishwasher
43581
Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
The Pacific Northest Westest
ScottD wrote:care to share, if you have a chance?
Bob Henrick
Kamado Kommander
3919
Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:35 pm
Lexington, Ky.
Peter May
Pinotage Advocate
3905
Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:24 am
Snorbens, England
Bob Henrick wrote:I would certainly need to try that Peter. I have never tried mustard with steak, muchless hot mustard. typical carnival fare here is a hotdog on a stick with a cornmeal breading around the dog...now that with your mustard would be quite improved. Thanks for the reply.
Peter May wrote:Bob Henrick wrote:I would certainly need to try that Peter. I have never tried mustard with steak, muchless hot mustard. typical carnival fare here is a hotdog on a stick with a cornmeal breading around the dog...now that with your mustard would be quite improved. Thanks for the reply.
Be warned that there is no similarity between US style mustard such as the brand 'Frenchs' and English mustard except in colour - take only the smallest smear as it is red hot.
I have seen Colmans English mustard on sale in US supermarkets. But if you cannot get any I'll happily post you some
Jenise
FLDG Dishwasher
43581
Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
The Pacific Northest Westest
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