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Frank Deis wrote:a Morgon Cote de Py that I was slightly disappointed with...
Jenise wrote: And there was this ridiculously vile and strongly alcoholic liqueur that they served us a shot of first thing in the morning, important for health they said. Bob thinks the name was 'Unicum'. Bob doesn't usually remember names like that, but it was so gross he's never forgotten.
The liqueur is today produced by Zwack according to a secret formula of more than forty herbs, and the drink is aged in oak casks. During the Socialist regime in Hungary, the Zwack family lived in exile in New York and Chicago, and during this time, Unicum in Hungary was produced using a different formula. However, before moving to the States, Janos Zwack had entrusted a family friend in Milan with the production of Unicum based on the original recipe. After the fall of communism, Peter Zwack returned to Hungary and resumed production of the original Unicum.
In 1988, just one year before the fall of Communism, Peter Zwack returned to Hungary and resumed production with the original Zwack formula. He repurchased his family business from the State in the summer of 1989, and by the spring of 1990, the original Zwack product was reintroduced to the Hungarian market. That same year, Peter was named Hungarian Ambassador to the United States.
Frank Deis wrote: And the Swiss make "Enzian" which is named after the gentian flower that grows in the Alps, supposedly the bitterest of all. I bought a bottle but I gave it away to some friends on the trip. Never tasted it..
Rahsaan wrote:Frank Deis wrote:a Morgon Cote de Py that I was slightly disappointed with...
Which one?
Frank Deis wrote:Rahsaan wrote:Frank Deis wrote:a Morgon Cote de Py that I was slightly disappointed with...
Which one?
Louis Claude Desvignes, 2009, La Voûte Saint-Vincent, Morgon
NOT a Cote de Py but I think generally thought of as as good??
Chambers Street Wines wrote:Desvignes 2009 Morgon La Voute Saint-Vincent
Not usually seen in the US, the La Voute Saint-Vincent is from parcels in the climat of Douby, in the north of Morgon, near Fleurie. Here the wines are more aromatic and softer than on the Cote de Py and are meant to be drunk relatively young. There is deep berry fruit on the palate that broadens darkly in the finish. Quite ripe but with adequate acidty, it will provide delicious drinking over the next 3 to 5 years. The vines are sixty years old and the soils are decomposed granite with sand. We're very happy to have this cuvee in 2009 from the Desvignes, as their Cote de Py and Javernieres will need 5 to 8 years to mature.
Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
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Frank Deis wrote:Unicum sounds a little like the bitters the Germans like to drink at the end of a meal. Will have to think of -- oh it came to me. Underberg! I actually kind of like Underberg. And the Swiss make "Enzian" which is named after the gentian flower that grows in the Alps, supposedly the bitterest of all. I bought a bottle but I gave it away to some friends on the trip. Never tasted it. Riedel makes a special glass for Underberg. Very tiny drinking part, shaped like a little conical flower, on a long thin stem. Guaranteed to break. I tried to buy some just for the perversity of it all but couldn't get them here in the states. I did find some Underberg on eBay. Little paper wrapped bottles packed into an attractive tin.
MAYBE the reason it was so disgusting is that they were still making the "Communist Version"???
In 1988, just one year before the fall of Communism, Peter Zwack returned to Hungary and resumed production with the original Zwack formula. He repurchased his family business from the State in the summer of 1989, and by the spring of 1990, the original Zwack product was reintroduced to the Hungarian market. That same year, Peter was named Hungarian Ambassador to the United States.
Jenise
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Jenise
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Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
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Frank Deis wrote:If I were closed-minded, I wouldn't have a variety in the pantry. I will have to figure out a tasting technique and report back. I have had Penzeys but it was the "sharp" kind and I wasn't that impressed. Great color but I thought not a whole lot of flavor. I will buy sweet Paprika from Penzeys and give it a shot. You are saying that you think Penzey's is Hungarian? I know Szeged is Hungarian...
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