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Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
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Carl Eppig
Our Maine man
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:38 pm
Middleton, NH, USA
Hoke
Achieving Wine Immortality
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:07 am
Portland, OR
Jenise
FLDG Dishwasher
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
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Mark Lipton wrote:Jenise,
To jump onto the bandwagon, not all farmed fish is equally bad -- either for the environment or for your taste buds -- as you've discovered. The key difference between farmed Atlantic salmon and your farmed trout is that salmon is an anadromous fish that can't be retained in a lake or otherwise enclosed water system. In general, all freshwater fish make decent farmed fish, so you could also groove on some tilapia, assuming that you found its taste anything other than insipid As Robin said, even "Chilean sea bass" can be OK with the Seawatch folks, as I discovered recently from a lengthy discussion with my local fishmonger.
Good luck with your fish,
Mark Lipton
Jenise wrote:I tried some other Vietnamese fish with a B name, might have been the Barramundi Robin mentioned but I don't specifically remember the name. Oh wait, something more like 'basa' rings a bell but I'm really not sure. Whatever, it was horrible.
Carl Eppig
Our Maine man
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:38 pm
Middleton, NH, USA
Mark Lipton wrote:The key difference between farmed Atlantic salmon and your farmed trout is that salmon is an anadromous fish that can't be retained in a lake or otherwise enclosed water system. Mark Lipton
Carl Eppig wrote:Mark Lipton wrote:The key difference between farmed Atlantic salmon and your farmed trout is that salmon is an anadromous fish that can't be retained in a lake or otherwise enclosed water system. Mark Lipton
Not quite right Mark. Surely you've heard of land locked Salmon. If you haven't you're welcome to come on by, we have a whole lake full of 'em practically within a stone's throw from here. The problem with farm raised salmon as I posted above is how they are farmed. They can be farmed safely and wholesomely in the right size enclosure in the right place, with the right techniques. When all the above are absent you get lousy if not dangerous fish to eat.
Carl Eppig
Our Maine man
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:38 pm
Middleton, NH, USA
Mark Lipton wrote:How yours fare there in NH I have no idea. Mark Lipton
Paul Winalski
Wok Wielder
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:16 pm
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Daniel Rogov
Resident Curmudgeon
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:10 am
Tel Aviv, Israel
Jenise
FLDG Dishwasher
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
The Pacific Northest Westest
Daniel Rogov wrote:Fish is extremely popular fare throughout the Mediterranean Basin and Israel is no exception to that rule. What may be a bit unusual is that tiny little Israel is one of the world leaders in the development of viable and environmentally friendly fish farming. Among the fish farmed here are red and white fleshed talapia (known locally as St. Peter's fish); brown and rainbow trout; small mouth bass; salmon and ... hold your breath ...sturgeon.
Pond raised salmon are limited in growth to about 1.5-2 kilos and are intended for cooking either as fillets or whole; and sturgeon, raised to 4 kilos are not farmed for their roe but entirely for their flesh.
Experiments were also done with fish raised in cages in the Red Sea (the Gulf of Aquaba if one prefers) but those proved a threat to the wild fish in the area as well as to the coral beds and has been discontinued.
As to quality - all of the pond farmed fish are available both fresh and frozen. Even though freezing uses the most modern technology I avoid those because they take on a remarkably similar texture and flavor one to the other and because their flesh looses its natural texture. On the other hand, purchased fresh at fishmongers they can be delicious.
Best
Rogov
Hoke
Achieving Wine Immortality
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:07 am
Portland, OR
Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
The Pacific Northest Westest
Jenise wrote: What's sturgeon like? I've only had it smoked, and when once I remarked on that to someone they said that if I'd ever had it not smoked I'd know. Maybe the key is harvesting them small where the typical Columbia River sturgeon is 30 pounds or so.
Daniel Rogov
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Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:10 am
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Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
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Daniel Rogov wrote:Jenise, Hi...
The small sturgeon we recive here are often served en sarcophage and are lovely that way. Some are also destined for smoking and to my own taste are at their very best that way. When smoked best cut in relatively thick slices and served spooned over with craime frache or would you believe thinly sliced and served on a bagel with cream cheese much as one would do with smoked salmon.
Best
Rogov
Hoke
Achieving Wine Immortality
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:07 am
Portland, OR
Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
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Hoke wrote:That Spago dish does sound good.
I'm a lover of smoked trout. Sol, owner of one of my favorite restaurants in Sonoma, La Haye, keeps that consistently on his app menu because it's a family/childhood fave of his, and it is reliably delicious with a mild horseradishy sauce.
Jenise wrote:Oh I adore smoked trout too. Rarely see it, though.
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