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Jenise
FLDG Dishwasher
43599
Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
The Pacific Northest Westest
Michelle Nordell wrote:This might be a little late, but here is my husband's Paprikáscsirke or Chicken Paprikás. You will have to add sour cream to the dish, we didn't because we keep kosher.
Bob Henrick
Kamado Kommander
3919
Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:35 pm
Lexington, Ky.
Ian H wrote:Hi there,
This is my first ever post on these boards, so forgive me if I act in any way that isn't in accordance to accepted custom. I'm a half English, half Hungarian ex freelance chef, and I'm afraid I come out in spots when I see many recipes for Paprikash. First of all, it's important to stress that there is a very good Hungarian chicken dish called Chicken pörkölt and I have a generic recipe for it here http://pagesperso-orange.fr/souvigne/recipes/main660.htm. The ONLY difference between a pörkölt and a paprikás is the use of sour cream in a paprikás, so it's impossible to make a kosher version of a paprikás, because it is a pörkölt. It's like trying to make an alcohol free Coq au vin!!
On my website, and just above the recipe for pörkölts are general instructions for making them. Please do read them, because the way in which one should cook these dishes is unlike any method commonly used in Western cookery. The name pörkölt means "singed" and the cooking needs to take place in such a way that it is on the edge of burning. This is essential if you wish to get the real taste of the Hungarian dishes.
Anyway, I've also got a recipe for a chicken paprikás which is pretty authentic.http://pagesperso-orange.fr/souvigne/recipes/main200.htm Though please, before trying it, DO read the general tips on making pörkölts.
H
ope I've not sounded too authoritarian, or dictatorial, but you DID say you wanted one "like you had in Hungary." If you follow my recipe, you will.
being Hungarian I suspect your recipe is authentic
I'm so sorry, that's the sort of problem I have sometimes when I read a recipe which calls for "chilli powder". Green paprikas are the fruit that you know as green paprika peppers as you surmised. As to what you can substitute... I'm at a loss. Can you get Chile poblano? That's about the nearest equivalent I can think of that might be available in Kentucky. It's by no means the same, however. When you say you can't find them in your locality, do you mean now, or ever? If you can never find them, I do find that surprising, as even in the total backwoods here in France we find them easily enough. But they are a summer/fall produce, so what you could do next year is to make your own lecso (tomatoes, green bell peppers, onions - recipe also on my website) freeze it in suitable batches and use that as and when you want to try a paprikás csirke. As for the onion, 3 inches would be about right I guess.I don't really know what you mean by 2 green paprika, do you mean 2 green paprika peppers, and if so, what could I substitute since I would not likely find them in my locality.Also, how large are the onions in the recipe? I would guess onions of about 3 inches in diameter?
Bob Henrick
Kamado Kommander
3919
Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:35 pm
Lexington, Ky.
Michelle Nordell wrote:My husband is just as half Hungarian as Ian is, more so if you ask my mother-in-law.
My husband makes chicken paprikash the way he learned from her, except that since he now keeps kosher, he leaves out the sour cream. You can walk down any street in Budapest and find at least 10 different recipes for paprikash. Hungarian food is basically peasant food and the better for it, and therefore recipe purism doesn't really fit. What Ian is calling green paprika is what Americans call green bell peppers. Whether you use two or four depends on the quantity you are making.
I don't have a problem with people sharing different recipes of the same thing, but don't insult me by saying my dish is not authentic. Hungarian Jews have always made paprikash without dairy and have lived in Hungary longer than the Magyars. So, please, tell my 91-year-old 100% Hungarian mother-in-law she doesn't know how to make paprikash. I dare you.
Larry Greenly
Resident Chile Head
7036
Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:37 am
Albuquerque, NM
Michelle Nordell wrote:My husband is just as half Hungarian as Ian is, more so if you ask my mother-in-law.
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My husband makes chicken paprikash the way he learned from her, except that since he now keeps kosher, he leaves out the sour cream.
Mike Filigenzi
Known for his fashionable hair
8187
Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:43 pm
Sacramento, CA
David M. Bueker
Childless Cat Dad
34940
Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
Dave R wrote:Ian,
What's your take on beans in chili?
Bob Henrick
Kamado Kommander
3919
Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:35 pm
Lexington, Ky.
Ian H wrote:Serve them beside - usually.
I use a recipe based on one by eminent chili head and generally disreputable friend Uncle 'Dirty' Dave. But I do have about 75 other recipes lurking around in my database. When I feel like a good laugh, I read through them from time to time.
Can I ask you one.... assuming you don't come from Cincinatti, what do you feel about cinnamon in them?
Bill Spohn
He put the 'bar' in 'barrister'
9975
Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:31 pm
Vancouver BC
... and the list doesn't stop thereBill Spohn wrote:People, Ian is one of the 'good uns' and well able to hold his own in any discussion or debate on matters gustatory or oenological.
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