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Food Network again

by Jenise » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:12 am

Okay, I've been sick the past couple days. Sick in bed sick. Couldn't even sit up the first day. Yesterday, I could, so I did what I inevitably do when I'm sick in bed: watch the Food Network.

This time I watched my first episode of Down Home With the Neelys. Where do they find these people? Now I get it that they're not professionals and that's most likely supposed to be part of their charm--accessible, not all precise and scary. And they're certainly affectionate and have the two most important qualities for anyone on that Network: they're glib and good-looking. You, the audience, are supposed to be totally entertained watching them without ever feeling like you have to make their food. Further proof that this is not meant to be intimidating TV is that they only made two things, shrimp cakes and a "tri-color salad". Now I didn't see the beginning of the show so not sure what went into the shrimp cakes, but I'd have probably eaten them, oh yes, even though I'd have preferred three smaller cakes to the single pork-pie hat sized patties she made. But that's a quibble. The weirdness started when she started helping him with the salad. He had already chopped peaches, red onion, green and red bell peppers, and was chopping a yellow one. So she opened the can of black beans, and put them in a colander. I thought she was going to rinse the thick gunk off because wouldn't that slime totally screw up their salad, but no. She did that "to drain off the sodium" like the beans weren't impregnated with it. Then she dumped the beans in his bowl while he was still flailing away on that yellow pepper, and commented on the "pretty" black, green and red colors. This, she said, is "why it's called tri-color". I almost rolled off the bed laughing.

This couple makes Rachel Ray look like an encyclopaedic overachiever.

After this, Paula Deen came on where she was set up outdoors near some fishing docks lining a bowl with lady fingers for a charlotte, which was so assinine a combination of thing and place I flipped back over to Cable news, where I feel safer. :) Especially when the stock market's up.

But not before noticing, via a commercial, that Sandra Lee has a new show. I can't remember the title, but it was something like "Saving Money On Your Cooking With Sandra Lee". Can you believe it? This woman has based her entire career on conspicuous consumption! She lives on packaged food and packaged food is anything BUT economical, and she redecorates her kitchen every day. Anthony Bourdain tunes in just to watch her boobs swing! We're supposed to tune into her for ideas on how to survive this recession? I don't think so.
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Re: Food Network again

by Dave R » Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:29 am

Feel better soon!
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Re: Food Network again

by Carl Eppig » Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:42 am

Feel better soon Dishwasher. You are lucky you missed the big shew last night. It was the first round, I think, to pick their next "star." The judges trashed every single dish, not without reason, and yet somehow were able to pick the best three, and send someone home. Go figa.
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Re: Food Network again

by Jo Ann Henderson » Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:44 am

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Although I agree with your sentiment on all three of those tv shows and personalities -- it's clear you are having a not so good day. You will feel better sooner if you stop watching Food Network - it's no longer wroth the click. Hope you feel better soon.
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Re: Food Network again

by ScottD » Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:35 am

The only thing worth watching anymore is Good Eats, and there have barely been a handful of new shows in the last 2 years. They're definitely targeting the least common denominator. :(
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Re: Food Network again

by Robin Garr » Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:45 am

ScottD wrote:The only thing worth watching anymore is Good Eats, and there have barely been a handful of new shows in the last 2 years. They're definitely targeting the least common denominator. :(

In the silver-lining department, I've noticed a number of new shows in recent weeks (I DVR all the Good Eats episodes so I can watch them when I want to) ... it's been a significant enough development to make me wonder if they're releasing a new season of episodes.
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Re: Food Network again

by Karen/NoCA » Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:55 am

What? Nobody like Guy's Big Bites or Tyler's Ultimate? Or Barefoot Contessa? I was watching someone's show the other day and they were using real baby carrots with stem ends, and a comment was made that it was not necessary to peel them. They should have washed them, at least, because I could still see dirt on them. Ick!
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Re: Food Network again

by Jenise » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:06 pm

Karen, I'm not pretending to not watch the Food Network, I really really don't watch it anymore. It's come a long way downhill from the good old days of David Rosengarten, Ming Tsai and early Mario and Emeril (who, say what you will, CAN cook). I only end up there when I have too much time on my hands and a 30 minute attention span. Which is pretty much when I'm sick. So Guy? I recognize who he is, but I've never seen his show (or is it shows, I'm confused about what he does) and from the commercials I'm convinced I don't want to. Ina Garten? Her voice bores me and her food is very formulaic--a comfort food savory paired with a heavy dessert generally involving custard or whipped cream or a thick frosting which I despise and don't even enjoy watching her make, so I find myself sitting there wondering just how many blue blouses she actually owns and being totally annoyed annoyed that there's a perfectly good six burner behind her that is NEVER turned on while instead she uses, at most in each episode, one of the burners on the second six burner there on the counter that faces the camera. Come on, a lot of restaurant kitchens don't even have 12 burners. As eye candy goes, that's just plain stupid. Tyler? I didn't like him at first--thought he was just a pretty boy. But after he got away from that wretched 911 farce and did the show called Ultimate--well, if only I could get so lucky as to get sick on a day when they're doing a Tyler's Ultimate Marathon, not that they have such a thing. Him I can watch. He's passionate about food, has real-deal skills and shows exemplary taste in putting together the elements he chooses for each menu, presuming those are in fact his choices of course--all of that comes across and his is one of the few shows still on there (at least I think it's still on) who has the whole package. I think it speaks well of the guy he seemed to be that he retired from TV to own and run a cookware shop in Northern California where he can teach small cooking classes and be close to his children while they're young. Ina? Honestly, I think she'd live on dessert if the world would let her, and all the rest of the food she makes is just a lame attempt to hide that fact. Obviously, I've watched more than a few episodes but I have never learned a thing or come away from her show thinking "I've gotta make that". She'd make a great neighbor, though!
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Re: Food Network again

by Carrie L. » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:42 pm

I miss David Rosengarten too. His show was a reason to watch the network.
Now, the only time I watch is ironically when I'm on the eliptical machine at the gym and for some reason, the timing usually works out that Everyday Italian is on. That show is okay, other than the fact it's a little like watching soft porn. I do like her cooking style and a lot of what she makes are dishes that I would make.
The other shows I like are Napa Style and any of Tyler's shows.
Agree with you about Ina. She is pretty boring and I get tired of hearing her use the word "good" in front of everything. (You can tell she is a friend of Martha S.) As in, use a "good" olive oil, or "good" chocolate.
You didn't mention "Chopped." I got a little tired of it after a few episodes. The ingredients were often so disparate (or just plain goofy) that the most talented chef in the world would have trouble coming up with something edible.
Sandra Lee is just ridiculous in any form. We've had this conversation before so I won't bore everyone...
Hope you are feeling better soon. Do you have the laptop in bed with you??
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Re: Food Network again

by Jenise » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:58 pm

Jo Ann Henderson wrote::lol: :lol: :lol:
Although I agree with your sentiment on all three of those tv shows and personalities -- it's clear you are having a not so good day. You will feel better sooner if you stop watching Food Network - it's no longer wroth the click. Hope you feel better soon.
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Thanks, Jo. It's just tough being stuck in bed (not one to coddle myself, but the nausea and fever demanded it), especially during great weather like this. But at least yesterday I could watch TV. The day before, not even that. Don't know what I've had but it doesn't seem like a flu, more like I'd been poisoned. Fever/nausea/migraine. Came on me about 5 a.m. on Wednesday, shortly after I'd gotten up, upon which I initially felt fine--severe, and I mean wracking severe, chills out of nowhere that lasted about two hours. I can't remember any so violent. Bob said the bed looked like it was going through an earthquake. He was so alarmed that he stayed home with me. Then I spent the rest of the day unable to lift my head off the pillow, like I'd been doped. Couldn't wake up, couldn't sleep.

Watching Food TV yesterday was actually an improvement. :)

Today, I'm going out to lunch!
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Re: Food Network again

by Jenise » Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:13 pm

Carrie L. wrote:and for some reason, the timing usually works out that Everyday Italian is on. That show is okay, other than the fact it's a little like watching soft porn.


I only mentioned the few things I saw when I watched yesterday and Giada wasn't one of them. But yes, I could definitely eat her food and compared to the other hosts, she has some skills. But the last time I saw any portion of her show, it was the last two-three minutes of an episode where she and her husband, I presume it was, were shown climbing the last five feet up the side of some mountain in Los Angeles with a grand view of the city way below and a picnic basket full of what one can presume she made on the show. She of course, did not have so much a drop of sweat on her, and in actual daylight her false eyelashes were so thick they looked like little black bats glued to her eyelids. Oh yeah, she really hiked up that mountain! Call me a nitpicker (nit! nit!) but I hate having my intelligence insulted, and watching her show requires that occasionally you allow that.
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by Dave R » Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:32 pm

Carrie L. wrote:Now, the only time I watch is ironically when I'm on the eliptical machine at the gym and for some reason, the timing usually works out that Everyday Italian is on. That show is okay, other than the fact it's a little like watching soft porn.


You say that like there is something wrong with soft porn. :mrgreen:

I agree though. Everything about Everyday Italian, from the constant cleavage to the music, screams (or shall I say moans) soft porn. Not that there is anything wrong with that though. :mrgreen:
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by Karen/NoCA » Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:53 pm

Jenise, I certainly agree with you about Ina and the blue shirts, plus all the other comments. I really enjoyed Ming Tsai for a long time. Isn't he on the Fine Living channel now? I used to watch Andrea Immer, hoping to learn more about wines. She has a nice manner about her and many of the places she visited were familiar to me and always interesting. She is on the Fine Living channel, as well. I should check out and see who else has moved there.
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by Jacques Levy » Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:44 pm

At this point, the only Food Network shows I watch are Jamie Oliver's "Jamie at Home" and Tyler's Ultimate. Guy Fieri's "Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives" is just ridiculous, it is for me a show about restaurants to avoid. I thought Anne Burrell's "Secrets of a Restaurant Chef" would be fun, but she yells too much and I learned nothing from watching one episode.

Feel better soon. Check out Top Chef Masters, the first episode wasn't nearly as bad as I feared, though it doesn't come close to the original (though I miss Padma, that Kelly Choi should put on another 50lbs before doing a food show)
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by Shel T » Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:57 pm

Jan and I are down to only two shows we find watchable/amusing, Ace of Cakes and Bobby Flay's "Throwdown". Apparently lowest common denomiter rules.
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Re: Food Network again

by Carrie L. » Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:00 pm

Dave R wrote:
Carrie L. wrote:Now, the only time I watch is ironically when I'm on the eliptical machine at the gym and for some reason, the timing usually works out that Everyday Italian is on. That show is okay, other than the fact it's a little like watching soft porn.


You say that like there is something wrong with soft porn. :mrgreen:

I agree though. Everything about Everyday Italian, from the constant cleavage to the music, screams (or shall I say moans) soft porn. Not that there is anything wrong with that though. :mrgreen:


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by Dave R » Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:09 pm

I know the feeling. I have to avert my eyes any time Bobby Flay comes on.
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Re: Food Network again

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I miss Sarah Moulten. -RP
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Re: Food Network again

by Carrie L. » Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:23 pm

Dave R wrote:I know the feeling. I have to avert my eyes any time Bobby Flay comes on.


Not me, I stick needles in them when he comes on.
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Re: Food Network again

by RichardAtkinson » Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:19 pm

And they are at it again….I had the bad luck to catch the pilot episode of the latest “The Next Network Food Star …or whatever Sunday night. As they judge the cooking and people skills of a new bunch of wannabes. But the formula is the same…training each and everyone one of them to be bouncy, bright talking heads preparing dumbed down recipes of good ol home cooking. I must confess to a bit of quasi-culinary voyeurism since I did watch it to the end.

But…good grief…what are they thinking of at Food Network these days? I don’t want to watch someone who cooks like I do (or worse)…I want to watch a pro and maybe learn something along the way.

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Re: Food Network again

by Bob Henrick » Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:30 pm

Dave R wrote:Feel better soon!


I bet she felt better soon after hitting the send button. Seriously Jenise, get better, and be quick about it.
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by MikeH » Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:36 pm

Carrie L. wrote:I.......Sandra Lee is just ridiculous in any form......


Sound like a typical hetero female.... :wink:
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by Jo Ann Henderson » Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:51 pm

MikeH wrote:
Carrie L. wrote:I.......Sandra Lee is just ridiculous in any form......


Sound like a typical hetero female.... :wink:

Hey...I resemble that! :evil:
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Re: Food Network again

by Shel T » Fri Jun 12, 2009 5:19 pm

So LOL, between us, everybody on the FN is hated, guess they might as well fold their tents and silently steal away!
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