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Toast Secret

by Larry Greenly » Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:29 am

I ran across this article about toast from the NY Times that was published a few years ago. Since there's only two us, it seemed like a good idea to me. I tried it this morning, and it worked well.



The Secret to Good Toast? It’s Your Freezer

By Emily Weinstein

Toast lovers, I have a modest proposal for you: Do not bother with bad bread. Say goodbye to sweet, cottony, lightweight toast, the kind that squishes under a butter knife or slumps under a blanket of jam.

Just get the good stuff instead, the best bread you’re able to buy, preferably handmade loaves with sturdy crusts and tender crumbs, imbued with the flavors of fermentation. It’s more expensive, and that’s no small thing. But unlike some other items for which you may pay more, good bread is worth a little extra.

Then always keep it on hand. I would argue that the best way to store bread isn’t to wrap it in foil, plastic or brown paper bags, sheath it in a pillowcase or stash it in the breadbox. The best way to keep bread is to put it into the freezer — sliced.
The slicing is crucial here. (It’s also a minor heresy, but hear me out.) Home bread bakers know that a whole loaf freezes incredibly well.

But when you defrost it, you replicate the problem of a whole loaf fresh out of the oven: Unless you have a full house, it’s a race to finish it before it goes stale. (Yes, you could make bread crumbs, but with apologies to devotees of schnitzel and gratins, who actually needs that many bread crumbs?) There are only two of us at my place, so a big loaf of fresh bread is difficult to take down.

By contrast, slices of good bread in the freezer practically qualify as convenience food: single serving and ever ready, the base of a luxuriously simple breakfast, a satisfying lunch, a restorative snack, a relaxed supper. And because you have stored your slices in the freezer, they do not degrade in the quick and nasty style of sliced bread left to languish at room temperature.

Here’s what I do: Whenever I see an alluring loaf of bread, I buy it, take it home, then start slicing, cutting about half the loaf into thick, toaster-ready slices. I put the pieces in a plastic zipper bag and pop them into the freezer. (Halved bagels work well, too.)
Then any time I want a piece of toast, I take a slice out of the freezer and put it directly into the toaster. Professional bakers may blanch, but I think the results are nearly as good as toasting a slice from a day-old loaf on the counter.

You don’t need any particular type of toaster. But you do need to think of your freezer periodically. You don’t want to just abandon bread to time and freezer burn, though I can tell you from experience that neglected slices will still work, even if the toasted texture won’t be nearly as good. Whatever you do, do not drag the microwave into this, no matter how deeply frozen the bread. This is between you, the freezer and the toaster.

Bear in mind that the fresher your bread is when it goes in the freezer, the better your results will be. So gauge how much you want to eat fresh, and just freeze the rest. You could even freeze it all at once, a formidable supply of toast in case the craving strikes.
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Re: Toast Secret

by Jenise » Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:41 am

And she wasted all that time on the slice of bread and didn't extend her coverage to how/when to butter? She falls short! She should have told everyone to only use toaster ovens, for toasting flat, then expounded on the superior results when the bread is buttered before toasting!!! One gets that nutty buerre noisette thing because the butter browns along with the bread, just as it does when pan-cooked like Texas Toast.
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Re: Toast Secret

by Larry Greenly » Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:06 am

Sounds like you have an article idea you can write for the NY Times. :mrgreen:

I'll try your pre-buttered idea on Edie and see what happens.
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Re: Toast Secret

by Jenise » Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:17 pm

Wouldn't do it any other way, Larry. Also, an added benefit is that one ends up using less butter because you're not trying to melt it on the already toasted bread.
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Re: Toast Secret

by Jeff Grossman » Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:49 pm

Interesting. I'll apply oil to bread before toasting for bruschetta but I like to butter toast afterwards. Part of that is just my laziness: I don't have the butter out of the fridge soon enough to be spreadable when I begin....
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Re: Toast Secret

by Larry Greenly » Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:58 pm

Jeff Grossman wrote:Interesting. I'll apply oil to bread before toasting for bruschetta but I like to butter toast afterwards. Part of that is just my laziness: I don't have the butter out of the fridge soon enough to be spreadable when I begin....


Me, too. I usually forget. But my toaster oven has a warm setting, so I place the butter in there while the bread is in the toaster. Usually timed okay.
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Re: Toast Secret

by Jenise » Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:15 am

I buy a spreadable butter just for this purpose.
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Re: Toast Secret

by Robin Garr » Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:49 am

Larry Greenly wrote:But my toaster oven has a warm setting, so I place the butter in there while the bread is in the toaster. Usually timed okay.

Maybe I'm the outlier here, Larry, but I like the toaster oven so much better for making toast that we don't even use the toaster any more. Do you find that the traditional toaster does a better job for you? One issue may be that we don't usually toast loaf bread. It's either Thomas English muffins or just-sliced artisanal breads from a great baker near us.
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Re: Toast Secret

by Paul Winalski » Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:53 pm

Buttering before toasting is of course the technique used when making grilled cheese sandwiches. I never thought to apply it to plain buttered toast, though.

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Re: Toast Secret

by Larry Greenly » Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:27 pm

Robin Garr wrote:
Larry Greenly wrote:But my toaster oven has a warm setting, so I place the butter in there while the bread is in the toaster. Usually timed okay.

Maybe I'm the outlier here, Larry, but I like the toaster oven so much better for making toast that we don't even use the toaster any more. Do you find that the traditional toaster does a better job for you? One issue may be that we don't usually toast loaf bread. It's either Thomas English muffins or just-sliced artisanal breads from a great baker near us.


I'm ambivalent about using the toaster oven for bread toast. I own an Oster toaster that has wide slots and even control settings for bagels or frozen breakfast thingies. I usually find it easier and can ignore the toaster till the bread pops up. With the toaster oven, I have to keep an eye on things.

That said, I've only had a (B&D) toaster oven for about a year, and I'm still experimenting with it. One thing I've discovered is that I can finish off my steaks in the toaster oven w/o having to fire up my big oven. It's also nice for reheating pizza. In general, I'm happy I have one.
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by Robin Garr » Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:14 pm

Larry Greenly wrote:That said, I've only had a (B&D) toaster oven for about a year, and I'm still experimenting with it. One thing I've discovered is that I can finish off my steaks in the toaster oven w/o having to fire up my big oven. It's also nice for reheating pizza. In general, I'm happy I have one.

We got a toaster oven about 30 years ago, a DeLonghi model based on a Consumer Reports recommendation. We ended up using it for a lot of smaller jobs that didn't really make sense for the big oven, and really got in the habit. It finally wore out five or six years ago - a long fun for a $120 counter-top appliance - and replaced it with an essentially identical Breville that's still going strong. I find that it toasts a whole lot more evenly than a regular toaster, and it's easier to watch so you can pull it sooner if necessary.
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Re: Toast Secret

by Peter May » Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:19 am

I don't agree with the article. Toasting a slice directly from the freezer doesn't IMO make as nice a slice of toast as from unfrozen bread.

I don't know the science but if you toast a frozen slice, then the outside is frozen when it starts cooking and the inside is defrosting. It's not the same.

She says that bread freezes well - she's correct. She says that when you defrost a loaf you have the same problems with it going off or stale as with a fresh loaf. Yes, so I buy good loaves, cut them in half and defrost half at a time.

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I put the pieces in a plastic zipper bag and pop them into the freezer. Then any time I want a piece of toast, I take a slice out of the freezer and put it directly into the toaster.

Unless you put each slice in a separate bag the slices freeze together and are difficult to separate, some times in trying to a slice breaks - because while frozen they are brittle.
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Re: Toast Secret

by Jeff Grossman » Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:19 pm

I'm with you, Peter: half a loaf, half a loaf, half a loaf onward!
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Re: Toast Secret

by Larry Greenly » Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:56 pm

Peter May wrote:I don't agree with the article. Toasting a slice directly from the freezer doesn't IMO make as nice a slice of toast as from unfrozen bread.

I don't know the science but if you toast a frozen slice, then the outside is frozen when it starts cooking and the inside is defrosting. It's not the same.

She says that bread freezes well - she's correct. She says that when you defrost a loaf you have the same problems with it going off or stale as with a fresh loaf. Yes, so I buy good loaves, cut them in half and defrost half at a time.

She says

I put the pieces in a plastic zipper bag and pop them into the freezer. Then any time I want a piece of toast, I take a slice out of the freezer and put it directly into the toaster.

Unless you put each slice in a separate bag the slices freeze together and are difficult to separate, some times in trying to a slice breaks - because while frozen they are brittle.


I've been trying the author's method for the past week. I've found zero problems with the slices sticking together, even though I jammed a number of slices together in one bag. I was originally concerned about sticking, too, but it might have something to do with the type of bread. I sliced a sourdough boule into about 5/8" slices (maybe it has something to do with slice thickness).???

I don't think bread is a very good insulator with its open cell structure. I find that in the time it takes to toast the outside, the inside is also warm, and I haven't heard any complaints from SWMBO. Lately, she's been getting a different spread on each half of toast: a pumpkin spread and a jalapeno jelly with little chunks of peppers.

Overall, I'm pleased with the results and how it reduces stale bread waste for us. :mrgreen:
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Re: Toast Secret

by Jo Ann Henderson » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:12 pm

A few years ago a friend of mine was going into the hospital for surgery. Her husband is NOT a cook. In the recovery basket I made for her I included one item for her husband, the cookbook Better on Toast. I figured, even he could make a dinner for them if it was just toast. I discovered from that book that my favorite go to for a spread to make toast is mayonnaise. Or, mayo topped with a little shredded Parmesan. Yummy!
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Re: Toast Secret

by Jenise » Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:52 pm

Never in a zillion years would I have considered spreading toast with mayo. BUT, why not? I know many do it for a richer grilled cheese, and I spread mayo on oven-baked vegetables like tomatoes and eggplant which will have another topping, like parm or breadcrumbs
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