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WTN: Italian Varietals, Washington Producers

by Jenise » Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:30 pm

Notes from last night's monthly neighborhood tasting:

The appetizer wines, available for self-pour:

2006 Chuckanut Ridge Pinot Grigio: at the point where only a bottle and a half of the next two wines had been drunk, the three bottles of this wine were drained. I never even got to taste any. Was it that good, or did people just reach for the familiar grape name? I'll never know.

2006 Yellow Hawk Dry Muscat Canelli: Beguiling nose of spice and grapefruit. Same on the palate with almonds and minerality. Bright and seemingly unoaked. More off-dry than last year's, but just as intense. This has got to be one of Washington's most idiosyncratic and interesting white wines.

2006 Bernard Griffin Rose of Sangiovese: very very nice. Where I found prior years had too much RS, this one's bone dry and tastes of green apples and red rose petals.


For the sit-down wines, I took into account all the suggestions I got here before purchasing--in fact, I had more names than the wine store guy I chose to procure for me even knew existed--but in the end the final selection had more to do with availability than what I wanted. For instance, the Waving Tree Barbera was supposed to have been a Lone Canary Barbera, but the supply dried up and on Thursday I had to accept this substitution. Or use another sangiovese, which in retrospect would have been a better choice.

The wines were served blind. We had 53 voters, and every wine received first place votes. The point spread was pretty flat from 25 for the last place wine to a near three way tie at 52 for first place where wines D and E received the most first place votes but wine A caught up with the majority of 2nd place votes. Surprisingly, I mostly agreed with the group, where more typically my favorites fare no better than 3rd place with them.

2006 Woodward Canyon Dolcetto: I opened one of these on Wednesday since I had an extra bottle, and hated it. Neither Bob nor I could drink it: excessive VA, and pickly. Ugh. So I pulled the corks on the rest, and they spent all day yesterday in open decanters. I had tasted it again on Thursday and yesterday morning, and my opinion didn't change. So I put all them into decanters yesterday morning hoping to at least save the wine from being an automatic last placer. Apparently successful: zin-like raspberry nose, zinberry palate. Rich, balanced and complete, and something rings old world. I couldn't believe my eyes when this was unveiled later: my 1st, group 1st.

2005 Yellow Hawk Barbera: Splendidly aromatic and feminine nose of spicey cinnamon and violets, and no doubt one of the barberas. Short mid-palate at first, that only started opening up in the second hour. Had it been more open, it would no doubt have taken 1st place. As it was, my 2nd, group 2nd.

2003 Yellow Hawk Sangiovese: bricky color outs this as the oldest wine in the group. Lovely nose of old leather, cherry and sandalwood. More mature than I would have expected at just age 4 but pleasantly so, and a bit too subtle on it's own but totally alive any time one used it to follow the tomato-based foods. Sure, not as complex as it's real Italian cousins but it's unmistakably sangiovese and a very nice effort. It's agedness scared off the Yellow Tail crowd in droves, though, so where I gave it a 3rd place vote the group vote placed it 6th. Forgive them, lord, for they know not what they do.

2004 Brian Carter Tuo Rosso: Can't recall the numbers exactly, but this one is approximately 60% Sangiovese, 35% cabernet and 5% syrah. Black cherry and berry, structured and yet elegant, nothing overdone. Very obviously the cab blend and quite good. Group 4th, my 4th.

2005 Tamarack Sangiovese: Pretty nose, young, big and bold fruit, generous oak. I suspected the Tamarack based on my previous encounters with their wines, and it was. My 5th, group 3rd (and 1st place with the Shiraz Fan Club).

2005 Waving Tree Barbera: Dark purple and grapey, with a lot of extracted skin flavor and some plastic shower curtain VA. Didn't like this at all, yet it did get some 1st place votes, most oddly from my pal Pete, whose preferences usually track mine. My 6th, group 5th.
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Re: WTN: Italian Varietals, Washington Producers

by Randy Buckner » Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:18 pm

It's always nice to see Yellow Hawk do well. Tim and Barbara are sweet people.
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Re: WTN: Italian Varietals, Washington Producers

by Peter May » Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:20 pm

It is very interesting ho wthe new world is now planting Italian varieties -- they're coming to fruition now in South Africa,

I think the 20-TENS will be the Italian decade :)

Incidentally - I link Muscat Canelli with Texas. Its the first place I came across that name and it seems qute popular there.
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Re: WTN: Italian Varietals, Washington Producers

by Marc D » Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:59 pm

Jenise,
thanks for the notes. Is the Yellow hawk available in town? I would like to try the Barbera. Did you catch the alcohol on it?

The Chuckanut red bad bunny I tried had an excess of American oak to my tastes, but it seems to fly off the shelves. I would have been curious if their Pinot gris receives the same wood treatment.

The woodward canyon just needed air, nice. And thanks for the update on the Griffin rose. I will try another bottle.

BTW, the Texier condrieu you suggested was a huge hit with some Seattle wine geeks last night. Lots of comments like "I don't usually like Viognier/Condrieu, but this is great".
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Re: WTN: Italian Varietals, Washington Producers

by Randy Buckner » Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:22 pm

I would like to try the Barbera. Did you catch the alcohol on it?


The label says 14.3, Marc.
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Re: WTN: Italian Varietals, Washington Producers

by Clint Hall » Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:44 pm

Marc D wrote:Jenise,


BTW, the Texier condrieu you suggested was a huge hit with some Seattle wine geeks last night. Lots of comments like "I don't usually like Viognier/Condrieu, but this is great".



Ah, so that's how you found the "[2004] Texier Condrieu. Now I'll have to stop saying I've never had a Viognier I liked.
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Re: WTN: Italian Varietals, Washington Producers

by Marc D » Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:52 pm

Clint, rarely if ever, has she steered me wrong. We finished the bottle of the Texier tonight and it was still very good. A little more tropical fruit than last night, and a little bit softer, but still a nice wine.

Very nice meeting you and putting a face to your name after all these years.

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Re: WTN: Italian Varietals, Washington Producers

by Clint Hall » Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:39 am

Marc D wrote: We finished the bottle of the Texier tonight and it was still very good. A little more tropical fruit than last night, and a little bit softer, but still a nice wine.

Marc


Marc, tonight we finished the 1996 Pinon Vouvray Premiere Trie, which was just about as lovely as it was last night, and also the 1989 Leoville Barton, which actually was better, a confirmation of your view that a few more years in the bottle would be for the best.

It was good to meet you, too. I know you have some excellent TNs on the night's wines. Any chance we might see them here?
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Re: WTN: Italian Varietals, Washington Producers

by Marc D » Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:10 am

Any chance we might see them here?


Here you go:

http://www.wine-lovers-page.com/forum/village/viewtopic.php?t=9686

How many more bottles of that Pinon do you have? That was really nice.
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Re: WTN: Italian Varietals, Washington Producers

by Jenise » Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:42 pm

Marc, the Yellow Hawk Barbera is quite worthy, you'll like it. I bought mine at Haggens-Ferndale about three months ago when he got a case of it. Hopefully there's more in the pipeline--Gabe there brought in the Sangio and the Muscat Canelli at my request just a week ago.

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