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Redwinger
Wine guru
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:36 pm
Way Down South In Indiana, USA
Hoke
Achieving Wine Immortality
11420
Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:07 am
Portland, OR
Redwinger wrote:Did you ever notice:
At a tasting when someone declares a wine as corked, a swarm of people immediately converge on the offending bottle for a sniff and even worse a taste. These are not rookies trying to figure out TCA but experienced tasters and I've never been able to figure out this "attraction" to corked wine. Go figure.
Similarly, someone declares the wine corked and immediately holds the glass out so others can take a whiff. They are not looking for confirmation, but more like showing off some prize they won. No thanks! WTF, would I want to screw up my already limited olfactory systemeven more?? If you say it's corked that's good 'nuf for me.
We are a curious lot.
'Winger
Redwinger
Wine guru
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:36 pm
Way Down South In Indiana, USA
Redwinger wrote:Hoke,
Would that be the Mark Lipton who brings corked Indian Merlot wherever he shows up?
'Winger
Redwinger
Wine guru
4038
Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:36 pm
Way Down South In Indiana, USA
Redwinger
Wine guru
4038
Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:36 pm
Way Down South In Indiana, USA
Hoke wrote:Now c'mere. Smell this. Ya think it's corked?
Hoke
Achieving Wine Immortality
11420
Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:07 am
Portland, OR
Redwinger wrote:Hoke wrote:Now c'mere. Smell this. Ya think it's corked?
Hoke,
No more Roar Rosella's for you.
'Winger
Sam Platt
I am Sam, Sam I am
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:22 pm
Indiana, USA
Redwinger
Wine guru
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:36 pm
Way Down South In Indiana, USA
Sam Platt wrote:I have had many obviously corked wines at home and in restaurants over the years. On the two occasions that someone declare a wine "corked" at a tasting I could not discern the TCA at all. In fact I thought one of the wines was quite good. Almost all of the other tasters made an nasty face on sniffing/tasting the wine after it was called into question. I think it was mob psychology at work.
I have had many obviously corked wines at home and in restaurants over the years. On the two occasions that someone declare a wine "corked" at a tasting I could not discern the TCA at all. In fact I thought one of the wines was quite good. Almost all of the other tasters made an nasty face on sniffing/tasting the wine after it was called into question. I think it was mob psychology at work.
Redwinger wrote:At a tasting when someone declares a wine as corked
Ian Sutton
Spanna in the works
2558
Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:10 pm
Norwich, UK
Nathan Smyth wrote:Remember, though, that sensitivity to TCA [like sensitivity to pretty much anything, involving any of the five senses] will have a bell curve of variation throughout the population.
Some people will be oblivious to a small amount of TCA, whereas that same dosage could prove undrinkably noxious to others.
Over the course of the last two or three years, I've started to suffer from the same problem that Laube does - I've had numerous bottles from the same production runs that all showed very small amounts of [what I call "background"] TCA, leading me to conclude that there's systemic contamination of the wineries in question. And [not surprisingly, but nevertheless still depressingly] I'm even getting this in screw-capped wines.
Although it occurs to me that if a vintner mixes in a vat before bottling, then it only takes one bad barrel to ruin an entire production run.
I've also found that soap stains on glassware and in decanters can very effectively mimic the taste of TCA. [Although, having said that, I fear that someone like Chris Coad will now tell me that TCA is tasteless. And maybe someone like SFJoe would know the extent to which "soapy" compounds tend to contain chlorine - or elements which behave like chlorine.]
And I think that decanters are a particularly problematic culprit because, given their bizarre shapes, they tend to be nigh unto impossible to wash and wipe properly, and there are darned few non-sudsy cleaners on the market [anyone know of a source for non-sudsy ammonia?].
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