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WTN: von Othegraven and some lesser-known German wines

by Rahsaan » Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:19 pm

Finished some work early today so I decided to stop by The Winery on my way home, as they were pouring German wines with Heidi Kegel from von Othegraven in the store. It was nice talking to Heidi as she told me how the 2007 harvest is already roughly 3 weeks in advance, even though there haven't been many "normal" vintages in recent years. She did not necessarily miss the absence of kabinetts from a stylistic perspective, as she preferred to sink her teeth into the bigger wines for personal consumption, but she definitely agreed that kabinetts were easier to sell.

For those of you who may not be aware of The Winery, they focus on young quirky (and often uneven) German producers, so von Othegraven is actually one of the more classic and reliable wines in their stable. As such the range of von Othegraven wines today was one of the best on display. Their 2006 Riesling trocken was a bit bitter and difficult to taste with so many other richer wines on display, but the 2003 Wiltingen Kupp Riesling offered more delicious depth and drinkability, even though it was not the most complex at the moment. Leave that to the 2005 Ockfen Bockstein Riesling, which was juicy, deep, so well balanced, and with more electricity. The OB was in fact showing better than the 2005 Kanzem Altenberg Spatlese, although the KA may be the better wine with rich, poised minerality and a lovely balance just waiting to unveil itself over time, but for the rapid fire tasting the OB was a clearer pleasure.

von Othegraven’s winemaker Andreas Barth has also been making his own wines just outside Koblenz under the Lubentiushof label, and his 2005 Lubentiushof Burg von der Leyen Riesling trocken was a Mosel trocken I could enjoy with plenty of firm fresh fruit and even a bit of expression amidst the neutral gray flavors. But, the 2005 Lubentiushof Gäns Riesling trocken was even better, old vines and plenty of deeper spicier fruit with intensity balance and expression that almost make it worth purchasing for home, if it didn’t cost the damned equivalent of $34. (Would like it much better at half the price, but then one can always say that)

Other wines on display included some difficult riesling trockens, a 2005 Flick Wickerer Stein Riesling Kabinett trocken from the Rheingau that was way too much for me, orange and rich flavors with a thin frame and annoying bitterness, not my favorite combination. Even worse was the 2003 Jochen Beurer Riesling "Junges Schwaben" trocken from Würtemberg, which was going in every direction, yeasty, spicey, cranky, bitter. Something was wrong, but I’m not sure if it was the glass the bottle or the wine.

Some fellow (Markus Wöhrle) who was an apprentice at Müller-Catoir and apparently turned down the job of being their top wine maker has started making his own wine in Baden and his 2005 Wöhrle/Stadt Lahr Grauburgunder Kabinett trocken was a fine enough rendition of the grape but a bit boring, just like his 2005 Spätburgunder trocken.

There was a delicious 2005 Nelles Spätburgunder "Classic" from the Ahr, which was plush chewy fun, but not necessary to buy either at the $30 price tag.

A few other odd and forgettable wines dotted the table, and I will keep looking out for Andreas Barth and the Lubentiushof wines, but needless to say tomorrow’s VDP tasting should be much more delicious.
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Re: von Othegraven and some lesser-known German wines

by Peter Ruhrberg » Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:58 am

Was it the regular KA Spl or the "Alte Reben" you tasted (or the auction Spl...)? The alte Reben and the auction KA were quite impressive last year, and I thouth the estate may be on a good trach despite the loss of their wine maker to Grünhaus. The 06es though that I tasted in Trier were not my cup of tea. The Spl they showed there was too heavy on the botrytis. (an extreme case of a common problem with 06)

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Re: von Othegraven and some lesser-known German wines

by Rahsaan » Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:06 am

Peter Ruhrberg wrote:Was it the regular KA Spl or the "Alte Reben" you tasted (or the auction Spl...)? The alte Reben and the auction KA were quite impressive last year, and I thouth the estate may be on a good trach despite the loss of their wine maker to Grünhaus. The 06es though that I tasted in Trier were not my cup of tea. The Spl they showed there was too heavy on the botrytis. (an extreme case of a common problem with 06)

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It was the regular spatlese. Didn't jump out at me as stellar and necessary to immediately purchase, but seemed to have good potential.

Am going to the VDP for a slew of 06s in a few hours, it looks like the only von Othegraven spatlese in the lineup is the Ockfen Bockstein, but am fully prepared for mouthfuls of botrytis.
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Re: von Othegraven and some lesser-known German wines

by Peter Ruhrberg » Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:36 am

Rahsaan wrote:Am going to the VDP for a slew of 06s in a few hours, it looks like the only von Othegraven spatlese in the lineup is the Ockfen Bockstein, but am fully prepared for mouthfuls of botrytis.


It may actually have been the OB I tasted. My memory is hazy in the Othegraven.
Be prepared for botrytis coming out of your ears...

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Re: von Othegraven and some lesser-known German wines

by Rahsaan » Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:20 pm

Peter Ruhrberg wrote:It may actually have been the OB I tasted. My memory is hazy in the Othegraven.
Be prepared for botrytis coming out of your ears...

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Yes, the 06 von Othegraven OB spatlese was indeed clumsy and difficult to digest, but it was interesting that the Dr Wagner and the Saint Urbans-Hof OB spatleses were nothing like that, much sleeker and very refreshing (although perhaps a bit boring in their own right, which is a different story).

So how big/diverse is the vineyard? Or must this all come down to different picking schedules/vinification.
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Re: von Othegraven and some lesser-known German wines

by Peter Ruhrberg » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:07 am

Rahsaan wrote:
Peter Ruhrberg wrote:It may actually have been the OB I tasted. My memory is hazy in the Othegraven.
Be prepared for botrytis coming out of your ears...

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Yes, the 06 von Othegraven OB spatlese was indeed clumsy and difficult to digest, but it was interesting that the Dr Wagner and the Saint Urbans-Hof OB spatleses were nothing like that, much sleeker and very refreshing (although perhaps a bit boring in their own right, which is a different story).

So how big/diverse is the vineyard? Or must this all come down to different picking schedules/vinification.


I was wondering about that contrast too. The Wagner OB Spl was the most drinkable 06 on the the Trier presentation. Not sure how it would fare in another context, but in this one it was definitely a highlight if you seek precise flavors and freshness/liveliness of fruit. I guess Wagner picker earlier. Othegraven have a tendency to heavyier style, and also stewed fruit flavors. I tried the KA SPL 05 last night, and found it too far into stewed apples for my comfort. Roman Niewozcbrnkskwhatnot liked the Othegraven 05s. That should be a warning sign ...

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Re: von Othegraven and some lesser-known German wines

by Rahsaan » Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:32 am

Peter Ruhrberg wrote:Not sure how it would fare in another context, but in this one it was definitely a highlight if you seek precise flavors and freshness/liveliness of fruit.


Yes, not sure how it would fare in another context indeed, but did serve as a lovely palate cleanser in this case :wink:

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