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WTN: New French/Calif Rhones...(long/boring)

by TomHill » Fri May 11, 2007 6:09 pm

We tasted last week (3/21/07) Some New Rhones:
1. Yalumba The Virgilius EdenVlly Viognier (14.5%) 2004: Pale gold color; very attractive
floral/spicy/pear/nutmeg light toasty/oak rather subtle nose; tart/lean spicy/pear/
very floral clean/bright/zippy light toasty flavor; light/clean/bright/tart attractive
floral/peach/Viog finish; a tight/bright/clean understated cold-climate Viog; overpriced
at $37.00
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2. Mouton Pere et Fils Condrieu Cote Bonnette (13.5%; http://www.AngelesWines.com) 2004: Med.gold
color; lovely perfumed/pear/peach/V quite spicy some minerally/complex slight dusty/
earthy nose; tart clean/bright some minerally rather floral/pear/peach/V flavor; very
long/lingering bright/pear/peach/floral/V some minerally bit lean finish; bit of a hole
in the mid-palate; an attractive tight Condrieu w/ some minerality. $45.00
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3. EdmundsStJohn Shell&Bones PasoRobles WW (14.2%; Viognier/RozetVnyd, Roussanne/
TablasCreekVnyd) 2005: Med.gold color; beautiful fragrant/floral/spicy ripe/peachy/
honeysuckle/floral/perfumed bit honeyed nose; soft rich/lush floral/fragrant/peachy/
honeysuckle slight nutty/minerally flavor; long rich/ripe/lush very floral/perfumed/peach/
honeysuckle finish; a beautiful ripe/lush white but acidity & structure & bit minerally;
great price at $21.00
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3a. le secret ivre Vin de Pays des Collines Rhodaniennes (14%; 50% Viognier/Roussanne)
PierreGaillard 2005: Med.dark color; lovely floral/peachy/pear/V bit smokey slight
honeyed/alcoholic bit Condrieu/minerally nose; tart rather minerally/V slight smokey
elegant flavor; med.short light peachy/V/minerally finish; quite an attractive V at
a very good price. $20.00
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4. JosephPhelps Viognier NapaVlly (14.6%) 2005: Light gold color; lovely fragrant/perfumed
bright pear/peach/floral/V slight minerally nose; fairly rich/lush pear/peach/V/floral
slight minerally flavor; long lush/ripe peach/pear/V bit minerally lovely finish; best
Phelps Viognier yet; loads of rip fruit but w/ acidity and bit of Condrieu minerality.
$45.00
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5. Newton Viognier NapaVlly (EB; 15.5%) 2001: Med.gold color; very strong toasty/
butterscotchy/creme brulee/oaked some melony/Chard-like slight peachy/V slight Mosel valve
oil/petrol nose; soft rather nutty/toasty/caramel/oak/pungent slight melony/peachy bit
oxidized flavor; med.long hazelnutty/oxidized rather toasty/butterscotchy/oak slight
melony/peach finish; seems way too old before its time; too little fruit & too much oak.
stupid price. $45.00
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6. Consilience CuveeMambo WW SantaBarbaraCnty (15.6%; Viognier/Roussanne/Marsanne;
http://www.ConsilienceWines.com) 2005: Med.gold color; strong ripe/butterscotchy/perfumed/spicy
light floral/citrusy some oaked nose; soft/fat/porky very ripe/overripe/butterscotchy/spicy
bit hot/alcoholic flavor; med.long soft/fat very ripe/peach some butterscotchy/oak bit
hot finish; attractive nose but very ripe/overripe on the palate
$26.00
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7. Sine Qua Non The Rejuvenators Calif WW (56% Roussanne, 25% Viognier, 20% Chard; AlbanVnyd;
15.2%) 2004: Med.light gold color; rather toasty/pungent/oaked/charred/burny slight floral/
honeysuckle/spicy quite interesting nose; soft rich/lush very toasty/pungent/charred/oak
light floral/honeysuckle flavor; very long/lingering charred/toasty/burnt/smokey/oak
some floral/honeysuckle finish; some good fruit buried under a lot of oak; a bit like some
of the early Alban Viogniers; interesting white. $81.50
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8. FireStationRed Calif Shiraz (14.2%; http://www.FireStationRed.com) Winegrower/JohnDrady
WineMaker/AnthonyAustin 2004: Very dark color; strong very grapey/boysenberry/blackberry/
Syrah/chocolaty/licorice very Oz-like nose; soft slight sour very plummy/boysenberry/jammy/
Syrah slight oak flavor; med.short ripe/plummy/boysenberry/Syrah/chocolaty finish w/ little
tannins; much like a mid-range Oz Syrah w/o the oak; lacks structure; fairly priced at
$16.00
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9. KendricVnyds Syrah ShenandoahVlly/Calif (13.9%; 225 cs; http://www.KendricVineyards.com)
KendricWineCo./Novato 2004: Dark color; loads of Am.oak rather ripe/overripe/Zin-like/briary/
blackberry slight earthy nose; soft very ripe/overripe Amador Zin-like/briary/blackberry
very strong Am.oak flavor; med. soft/fat very ripe/overripe blackberry/briary finish w/
little tannins or structure; on the overripe side & loads of Am.oak; more like Amador Zin
than Syrah; suspiciously low alcohol. $16.00
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10. Consilience CuveeMambo RW SantaBarbaraCnty (16.8%; mostly PetiteSirah) 2004: Black color;
huge fruit/boysenberry/blackberry/licorice loads of oak rather alcoholic nose; soft/fat
big/huge/blackberry/boysenberry/fruit concentrated loads of oak flavor; med.long
huge/blackberry/fruit slight herbal loads of vanilla/oak rather hot/alcoholic finish w/
slight tannins; gobs & gobs of concentrated fruit; rather hot/alcoholic & lacks structure;
bit too over-the-top for my tastes. $38.00
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11. Turchi Syrah SantaBarbaraCnty (13.9%; http://www.TurchiWine.com; 83% Syrah + Malbec + CabFranc)
CoreWines 2005: Black color; intense bit herbal/licorice complex blackberry/Syrah strong
Fr.oak/toasty rather aromatic boysenberry/framboise nose; soft/fat slightly sour some tannic
very ripe/overripe boysenberry/blackberry/jammy/framboise rather toasty/Fr.oak flavor;
rather tannic some herbal very ripe blackberry/boysenberry/framboise toasty/oak finish;
needs a few yrs; a rather strange but interesting wine at a very fair price. $14.50
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12. Dehlinger Syrah RussianRvrVlly (EB; 14.6%) 2003: Very dark color; lovely smokey/pencilly/
Fr.oak strong blackberry/Syrah some Pinotish complex nose; tart very smokey/pungent/pencilly
strong blackberry/Syrah slight earthy balanced/polished flavor; very long pencilly/smokey/
oak quite blackberry/Syrah finish w/ light tannins; needs several yrs; a lovely balanced &
polished Syrah towards the Pinot part of the spectrum; classic Dehlinger wine. $37.80
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13. LaDiligence StageCoachVnyd/NapaVlly Syrah (14.2%) DaveMiner/FrancoisVillard/
MinerFamilyVnyds 2004: Black color; intense blackberry/boysenberry/Syrah very smokey/pungent/
Fr.oak slight Rhonish/roasted/peppery/spicy nose; rather tannic/hard strong blackberry/Syrah
quite pungent/smokey/toasty/Fr.oak slight peppery/roasted/coffee flavor; long tannic/hard
pungent/Fr.oak/toasty strong blackberry/Syrah finish; needs 3-6 yrs; very nice Napa Syrah
w/ a bit of Rhonish nuances. $40.00
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14. Drew Syrah MorehouseVnyd/SantaYnezVlly (14.5%; 185 cs; 5% LarnerVnyd) 2004: Very dark/black
color; huge blackberry/boysenberry/Syrah some peppery/spicy/coffee some toasty/Fr.oak very
attractive nose; tart some hard/tannic intense boysenberry/blackberry/Syrah slight peppery/
pungent/coffee some toasty/Fr.oak flavor; very long/lingering intense blackberry/Syrah light
peppery/coffee some toasty/oak finish; needs 3-8 yrs time; a classic Jason Drew Syrah;
very fairly priced at $35.00
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15. Cline AncientVine ContraCosta Mourvedre (14%) 1999: Very dark/black color; huge eucalyptus/
minty/menthol rather plummy/earthy slight mushroomy complex nose; soft rich very minty/
menthol/eucalyptus ripe/plummy slight earthy/funky flavor; med.long eucalyptus/menthol
ripe plummy finish w/ light tannins; best Sonny mystery wine ever. $14.00
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Enlightening thoughts from TheBloodyPulpit:
1. PhelpsViognier: I've not tried the Phelps Viognier in some yrs. They were one of the first
Calif Viognier producers. They were not very attractive to me. They seemed rather pinched
and lean and tight when released. They sometimes aged rather well, though. But they
seldom had the lush/ripe fruit I like in Viognier; as maybe they were harvested too early.
This '05 Phelps was a whole nuther beast. Easily the best Phelps Viognier I've ever
had; with much more ripeness & lushness, yet good structure. Like their Syrah program;
it seems that Phelps is making Rhone wines that are now the equal of their Insignias.
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2. Consilience: These are wines I just can't seem to get. I like some of the things they often
show, but all too often, they seem a bit too much over-the-top for me. Had one for dinner
a few weeks and it just got too tiring on my palate after a few glasses.
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3. Rejuvenators: Can't say that this wine did a lot for me because of the ton of oak it had.
But it IS SQN, so we are told it IS great wine. End of discussion. Some people in the group
labeled it as fraudulent, because of the price. I think the jury is out and it may
actually shed some of that oak and become interesting w/ age. We shall see.
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Re: WTN: New French/Calif Rhones...(long/boring)

by Mike Filigenzi » Fri May 11, 2007 9:16 pm

Tom -

On the Kendric, I was intrigued by the "suspiciously low alcohol" comment. Was the alcohol level suspicious because the wine seemed to contain more alcohol than that or because it likely had been through RO or something along those lines to reduce what must have been a higher level given the ripe fruit character?

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Re: WTN: New French/Calif Rhones...(long/boring)

by Rahsaan » Sat May 12, 2007 8:00 am

TomHill wrote: But it IS SQN, so we are told it IS great wine. End of discussion. Some people in the group labeled it as fraudulent, because of the price.


Isn't $81 cheap for SQN? At least in comparison to the red wines.
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by TomHill » Sat May 12, 2007 8:41 am

Mike Filigenzi wrote:Tom -

On the Kendric, I was intrigued by the "suspiciously low alcohol" comment. Was the alcohol level suspicious because the wine seemed to contain more alcohol than that or because it likely had been through RO or something along those lines to reduce what must have been a higher level given the ripe fruit character?

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Mike,
It had a lot of overripe/jammy character that was consistent w/ a 15%+ Zin. I suspected that it was RO'd, assuming the stated alcohol was accurate. I certainly didn't taste or smell 15%+ alcohol in the wine.
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by TomHill » Sat May 12, 2007 8:43 am

Rahsaan wrote:Isn't $81 cheap for SQN? At least in comparison to the red wines.


'Tis cheap anymore for an SQN. This was actually my 2'nd btl. The first was badly corked and promptly replaced by Manfred.
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