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by Diane (Long Island) » Fri May 11, 2007 5:13 pm

How is it pronounced?
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Re: Nigl

by Robin Garr » Fri May 11, 2007 5:35 pm

Diane (Long Island) wrote:How is it pronounced?


"Niggle" would come reasonably close, I think.
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Re: Nigl

by Diane (Long Island) » Fri May 11, 2007 6:41 pm

Robin - that is how I have pronounced it, but a "wine guy" at a pretty classy local restaurant called it "Nigel" as in the name. We are returning there for dinner tonight with some friends, and I didn't want to appear foolish by saying it incorrectly. Thank you for the validation.
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Re: Nigl

by Robin Garr » Fri May 11, 2007 6:45 pm

Dianne, I'm no linguist, but I did take German for two years in high school followed by two years in college. I've forgotten a lot, but I think I can say without fear of serious contradition that "Nigel" would be a very odd way to pronounce that word in German.

Still, that being said, I'll be happier if others can confirm this ...
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Re: Nigl

by Dale Williams » Fri May 11, 2007 7:55 pm

I used to say closer to Niggle, but somehow moved to "rhymes with eagle"l over last few years. I assume I got that from someone I thought authoritative. Maybe Michael Pronay or Emily Weissman will chime in (or David from Switzerland)
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Re: Nigl

by Paulo in Philly » Fri May 11, 2007 10:24 pm

Diane (Long Island) wrote:How is it pronounced?


I am not a native German speaker, but I do sing and listen to German Lieder (Art Song) or opera on a daily basis and I would agree with Robin.... or it would have to be written "Neigel, or Neigl".... The "ei" in German is always "eye" as in the words "Mein" or "Dein".... "ie" is always "ee" as in the word "Riesling"..... and just an "i" would be phonetically [ I ], as it in word "It".... so... Nigl would be "niggle" with a very tip of the tongue "L" at the end....

but.... I could be totally wrong if the word is in some obscure dialect...... :roll:
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Re: Nigl

by Diane (Long Island) » Fri May 11, 2007 11:35 pm

I was so sure "Nigel" was wrong, but when someone who is supposed to be knowlegdeable speaks, I usually trust him. This time I had my doubts.

I will continue to pronounce it as "niggle," although tonight I changed my mind and ordered a Domaine du Closel 2005 "Jalousie." I've had the 2004 and thought the 2005 showed better acidity and was well balanced.

Thank you for the help.
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Re: Nigl

by Rahsaan » Sat May 12, 2007 7:45 am

Diane (Long Island) wrote:Domaine du Closel 2005 "Jalousie." I've had the 2004 and thought the 2005 showed better acidity and was well balanced.


Interesting. I assume the 2005 was also richer?
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Re: Nigl

by Diane (Long Island) » Sat May 12, 2007 9:12 am

Rahsaan wrote:
Diane (Long Island) wrote:Domaine du Closel 2005 "Jalousie." I've had the 2004 and thought the 2005 showed better acidity and was well balanced.


Interesting. I assume the 2005 was also richer?


I found it to be more well rounded than the 2004 which I had around this time last year. Richer could be included in the description. I wouldn't mind owning a couple of bottles of the 2005, while I didn't find the need to buy the 2004, which was good but seemed to be a lighter style.
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Re: Nigl

by Rahsaan » Sat May 12, 2007 9:39 am

Diane (Long Island) wrote:I found it to be more well rounded than the 2004 which I had around this time last year. Richer could be included in the description. I wouldn't mind owning a couple of bottles of the 2005, while I didn't find the need to buy the 2004, which was good but seemed to be a lighter style.


Makes sense. I had wondered what you meant by the "better" acidity in the 05 since it was a hotter/drier year, but, now I see.

Must taste these wines myself when I get the time.
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Re: Nigl

by SFJoe » Sat May 12, 2007 10:25 am

Terry Thiese on the combination of potatoes and gruner veltliner: "Fries like a Nigl."
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Re: Nigl

by Paulo in Philly » Sat May 12, 2007 10:33 am

Randy R wrote:
Paulo in Philly wrote:I do sing and listen to German Lieder


But do you wear the full Hosen?


Aber naturlich! :wink:
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Re: Nigl

by Michael Pronay » Sun May 13, 2007 3:57 am

"Niggle" is as close as it would come. "Nigel" is a joke, a running gag over here.
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Re: Nigl

by Diane (Long Island) » Sun May 13, 2007 10:22 am

Michael Pronay wrote:"Niggle" is as close as it would come. "Nigel" is a joke, a running gag over here.


Michael - I almost laughed when I heard him say that. However, then I wondered if I could be mistaken.
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Re: Nigl

by David M. Bueker » Sun May 13, 2007 4:45 pm

Whenever Terry Theise has actually said it, it came out as "Neegle."
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Re: Nigl

by Dale Williams » Sun May 13, 2007 6:07 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:Whenever Terry Theise has actually said it, it came out as "Neegle."


I think it was a Skurnik rep that I heard pronounce it as if it rhymed with eagle.
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Re: Nigl

by Michael Pronay » Sun May 13, 2007 8:28 pm

Well, actually it's something like halfway between "niggle" and "neegle" as in "eagle". "Nigel" definitely is a no-no.
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