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Anyone taste a bretty Zin lately?

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Anyone taste a bretty Zin lately?

by Paul B. » Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:07 pm

In all the years I've been into wine, I can't ever recall trying - or reading about - a bretty Zinfandel. Are there any out there today? I would think that among the many wineries out in California, there must be at least one that has some brett action going on.

Based on the findings, I'm going to cross check and see if any such examples might be available at Vintages.

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Re: Anyone taste a bretty Zin lately?

by Jay Baldwin » Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:22 pm

topolos in some years.
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Re: Anyone taste a bretty Zin lately?

by Robin Garr » Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:34 pm

Jay Baldwin wrote:topolos in some years.


Does Coturri make a Zin? They're notorious for winery sanitation, I believe.

I also had a bretty Zin from Fife once, served by the wine maker's bride, the notorious Karen MacNeil, who was embarrassed to tears and probably would have denied it was bretty if she could have gotten away with it.

But frankly, even though I have no objection to discreet brett in old world wines, the idea of a bretty Zin seems faintly absurd.
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Re: Anyone taste a bretty Zin lately?

by Michael Malinoski » Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:12 pm

I recently had a 99 Ridge Lytton Springs that sported some surprising bretty notes--it contributed to a claret-like impression. I'll post the complete note in a separate thread.

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Re: Anyone taste a bretty Zin lately?

by David M. Bueker » Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:15 am

Coturri's problem was never really brett. It's VA.
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Re: Anyone taste a bretty Zin lately?

by David M. Bueker » Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:17 am

Brett is also notoriously a bottle by bottle phenomenon unless it's a really bad case of brett, so targeting buying a bretty wine is problematic at best.

And please explain why you would want to intentionally purchase a flawed wine?
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Re: Anyone taste a bretty Zin lately?

by Paul B. » Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:38 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:And please explain why you would want to intentionally purchase a flawed wine?

That one's easy: I actually like a little brett in reds from time to time, and don't think of it as an outright flaw unless that's all there is on the nose. Depends very much on one's tolerance level for given aromas; e.g. I dislike any hint of TCA (a flaw no doubt), but a bit o' brett I can handle with poise.
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Re: Anyone taste a bretty Zin lately?

by David M. Bueker » Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:40 pm

That makes sense. I have a decent tolerance for brett as well, but asking for "bretty" wines will more than likely get you information on wines dominated by it.
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Re: Anyone taste a bretty Zin lately?

by Paul B. » Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:41 pm

Michael Malinoski wrote:I recently had a 99 Ridge Lytton Springs that sported some surprising bretty notes--it contributed to a claret-like impression.

Thanks Michael. That's exactly what I was thinking about - i.e. how a bit of Brett can transform the nose of a Zin and make it a bit more Old-Worldy, if you will.
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Re: Anyone taste a bretty Zin lately?

by Rod Miller » Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:43 pm

What is the difference between a brett taste and barn yard. I was talking to a winemaker about making the local barbera. He was saying that the wine will go into reduction (reactions without oxygen) if there is not enough barrel transfer (oxygenation) and the result is barnyard. I wonder if brett and barn yard are confused. Correct one sees brett in syrahs and not much in zinfandels. There are two wineries I frequent that have brett. I asked a third about a slight brett taste in a zin and the winemaker said the brett came in used barrels they bought from Opus.
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Re: Anyone taste a bretty Zin lately?

by Victorwine » Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:08 pm

Brett – aka horse, stables, sweaty-saddle, and barnyard.

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