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WTN: Felsina, Clair, plus quick takes on big Louis-Dressner tasting at CSW

by Dale Williams » Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:22 pm

Friday dinner was osso buco, from a Biba Caggiano recipe that incorporates the gremolata into the sauce (making it much more wine friendly). I opened the 1999 Felsina Chianti Classico. Lively black cherry fruit, nose of flowers and leather. Tannins fully resolved, bright acidity, a lovely textbook Chianti. A pointe. B+/A-

Saturday was date night, and I took Betsy to F.I.S.H. in Port Chester. One travels through a rather rundown industrial area to get there, but the food is worth it (and we'll be back in summer for the deck overlooking the water). I started with calamari with smoked paprika aioli, Betsy with some oysters. For the main course I had red snapper with a tapenade crust, garlic mashed potatoes, wilted greens and orange-fennel salad. Betsy had the shutome (Hawaiian swordfish) with faro "risotto". All extremely good. I had carried along a bottle ($20 corkage, but they waived it as they asked us to switch tables just after seating- good deal!). Wine was the 2002 Francois and Denis Clair "Les Murgers de Dents de Chien"Saint-Aubin 1er Cru. Just stunning for a "mere" St. Aubin, rich deep pear fruit bracketed by light toasted oak/hazelnut notes and a stony minerality. As it evolved over dinner (Betsy limited herself to a glass or so as driver, so I had plenty of sips), a rich caramelly note appeared. Despite the richness, there's a lot of acidic verve here. This could probably use more time, but delicious now, and I've decided that with all the random oxidation issues my white Burgundies are all going to die early deaths. This was my last of this, but I wish I could stick a bottle in a lineup of 2002 Pulignys. A-

Earlier in the day I had riden into city with Betsy, then run errands while she played matinee. I had a couple of mixed cases to pick up at Chambers St. Wines, so took advantage to attend the big tasting of Louis Dressner's French producers. Really incredible lineup of wines. A few thoughts:
1) Though English skills varied, producers were all enthusiastic and informative.
2) Wow, that was packed. CSW is a small space, but they made the most of it. I developed a strategy at the busiest tables of getting a pour, withdrawing, and spitting/dumping at less crowded tables.
3) What a great lineup. Don't think I tasted a wine I wouldn't welcome at my table (I tasted maybe 50% of the early lineup, skipping wines I already tasted (or was picking up already). Except maybe one Brun cru, but it was too cold so hard to judge.
4) Though I didn't have much time for chatting, it was good to see old offline companions like Jeff, Jake, Jay, and Manuel briefly.
5) I wish there were more spittoons. Not just for me, there were a few folks there who I wished had been more sober. :)

Some wines tasted:
2005 Pepiere (Marc Ollivier) Cuvee Eden Muscadet- I always tend to buy the regular and the Briords, but I should get this. Lovely, a little more round than the regular cuvee, but with a long minerally finish that I really adored.
2005 Pepiere (Marc Ollivier) Clos des Briords Muscadet- tasted even though I own, big for Muscadet, needs time,but excellent.

2005 Terres Dorres (Brun) Chardonnay (Beaujolais Blanc)- I think I like this better than the '04, rich yet with cut, clean with nice chalky edge
2006 Terres Dorres (Brun)Beaujolais Rosé "Brun de Folie" - lightly sweet, light, fun
All of the Brun reds were being served from ice, while I like Beaujolais lightly chilled I found it hard to differentiate when really cold, but the Fleurie was probably my fave.

2005 Michel Tete Julienas- light, forward, fun, fresh
2005 Michel Tete Julienas Cuvee Prestige- tighter, more brooding, with lots of tannins for Beaujolais and a little wood note sticking out. I'm passing, but guessing that in a few years this could be inserted blind with some lighter Burgundies without comment.

2004 Eric Texier Cotes-du-Rhone Brezeme- I found an earlier vintage of this too acid even for me, but this is nicely balanced, a medium-weight with pretty red fruit , nice acids, and a good finish.
2004 Eric Texier "Domaine de Pergault Vieilles Vignes" Brezeme
Richer with a meaty/bacony nose, weighty, nice but needs time.
2004 Eric Texier Cote-Rotie
And we keep growing. Muscular yet perfumed, very nice indeed.

NV Renardat-Fache Cerdon du Bugey
New version much like the old- fun, frothy, and who needs serious?

2004 Cazin Cour-Cheverny
Lots of acidic cut, citrus fruits, needs food.
2004 Cazin "Cuvee Renaissance" Cour-Cheverny
Off-dry, great acids, this one would be great with food but I'd happily slurp but itself!

2005 Closel "La Jalouise" Savennieres
Clean Chenin fruit, baked apples on a tight acidic core.
2005 Closel "Clos du Papillon" Savennieres
This one is raised in wood, but I didn't find it oaky, just a bit rounder and fuller than the La Jalousie. I liked both.

2005 Catherine and Claude Marechal Savigny VV
I actually was trying to taste the Cuvee Gravel Bourgogne, but this is what was poured, and I ran out of time. I loved this wine in 2002, and the '05 seems at least as good. Of course, the exchange rate means this is pushing $40, so I must think about it.

What a tasting. Even though I didn't taste everything, it was fun sampling. And even with wines I didn't taste because I knew them and own them, it was nice to tell folks like Jean Manciat how great I think their wines are.

Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.
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Re: WTN: Felsina, Clair, plus quick takes on big Louis-Dressner tasting at C

by Bob Ross » Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:41 pm

Thanks for the great notes, Dale. As I mentioned to Bill, I had hoped to attend this tasting. Your notes, and Bill's, made me feel like I had done so.

Many thanks. Bob
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Re: WTN: Felsina, Clair, plus quick takes on big Louis-Dressner tasting at CSW

by Rahsaan » Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:40 am

Dale Williams wrote:2004 Eric Texier "Domaine de Pergault Vieilles Vignes" Brezeme.


Interesting. Is this a new acquisition in Brezeme? Who is Pergault?
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Re: WTN: Felsina, Clair, plus quick takes on big Louis-Dressner tasting at CSW

by Richard Fadeley OLD » Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:03 pm

Dale,
Where did you get the F & D Clair St. Aubin? I was there last year and spent about an hour with them (father & son). Brought back an '04 Mugers and another '04 1st Cru white as well as an '02 Clos de Tonnere(?), and am wondering when I should drink? Also would like to be able to get more. They were great to taste with, one of the highlights of my trip.
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Re: WTN: Felsina, Clair, plus quick takes on big Louis-Dressner tasting at C

by Mark Lipton » Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:12 pm

Rahsaan wrote:
Dale Williams wrote:2004 Eric Texier "Domaine de Pergault Vieilles Vignes" Brezeme.


Interesting. Is this a new acquisition in Brezeme? Who is Pergault?


Not terribly new, Rahsaan. I picked up the '00 Pergault at NBI in '05. You might just not have noticed the difference, as Brezeme is still prominently displayed on the label with "domaine de Pergault" in smaller letters. I'd assumed that this is Eric's "estate" wine, though that is strictly a guess.

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Re: WTN: Felsina, Clair, plus quick takes on big Louis-Dressner tasting at C

by Dale Williams » Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:12 pm

Mark, thanks for answering Rahsaan's question, I had no clue (so this is the same bottling at the Brezeme VV of past).

Richard, I bought this at Rochambeau in Dobbs Ferry at release. But Alan the owner who bought it has departed, so haven't seen since. I have an order for some 2005 from Garnet in NYC, but not arrived yet.
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Re: WTN: Felsina, Clair, plus quick takes on big Louis-Dressner tasting at C

by Rahsaan » Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:33 pm

Mark Lipton wrote:
Rahsaan wrote:
Dale Williams wrote:2004 Eric Texier "Domaine de Pergault Vieilles Vignes" Brezeme.


Interesting. Is this a new acquisition in Brezeme? Who is Pergault?


Not terribly new, Rahsaan. I picked up the '00 Pergault at NBI in '05.


Aha. Ok.
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Re: WTN: Felsina, Clair, plus quick takes on big Louis-Dressner tasting at C

by Bill Buitenhuys » Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:16 pm

Looks like you had a similarly positive experience to the one I had at Real Wine Boston, Dale.

I would have enjoyed tasting Texier and Marechal (and Chidane?) . Maybe Joe will convince them to come to Boston next year as well as to NYC.
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Re: WTN: Felsina, Clair, plus quick takes on big Louis-Dressner tasting at C

by Mark Lipton » Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:15 am

Rahsaan wrote:
Mark Lipton wrote:
Rahsaan wrote:
Dale Williams wrote:2004 Eric Texier "Domaine de Pergault Vieilles Vignes" Brezeme.


Interesting. Is this a new acquisition in Brezeme? Who is Pergault?


Not terribly new, Rahsaan. I picked up the '00 Pergault at NBI in '05.


Aha. Ok.


My bad, Rahsaan. I just looked in the cellar and it was the '03 that had the Pergault on the label. The '00 VV comes without such a moniker.

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