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WTN: OR Chard, Nahe GG, Bandol rose, CA/FR Champagne

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WTN: OR Chard, Nahe GG, Bandol rose, CA/FR Champagne

by Dale Williams » Mon Aug 31, 2026 11:07 am

Ginger lime chicken, udon, smashed cucumber salad, green salad

2022 Kruger Rumpf Burgberg Riesling Grosses Gewachs
Herby and saline with gingery overlays, very dry. Excellent food wine that’s not as friendly on its own. B+

Some old friends over Sat. He has celiac, and she is vegan, so some restrictions, but we were able to do “most people can eat most things”

Corn chips and hummus
Hiyayakko (with GF tamari)
Grilled halibut (Andrea had extra tofu instead), corn, gingery broccoli salad, green salad with grilled delicata

Diebolt-Vallois/ Skipstone Rose de Constance Blanc de Blanc Champagne 6th Ed
So Skipstone is apparently an expensive boutique in California. I guess they contract with Diebolt-Vallois to produce a Champagne, which they sell for premium pricing. Why a BdB is called Rose don’t ask me! Pretty decent BdB- pear, green apple, nice bead, a little chalk. I’d happily pay $40 for it (apparently sells for 3-4X that). B

2021 Brick House Cascadia Chardonnay
I remember having Brick House PN from St Innocent, but think my first from winery. Young, pear and hazelnut, nice grip and a long finish. Some floral honeysuckle notes with air. Nice, with a future. B+

Grilled swordfish (lime/soy/ginger), soba, leftover cucumber salad, green salad
2015 Terrebrune Bandol Rose
I’ve had good bottles of this recently, but this isn’t one. Heavy and heavy handed, drinks more like an orange wine than Provencal rose. Despite apparent acid the palate in flat, and the finish is clipped. C


Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C drinkable. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was the only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.
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Re: WTN: OR Chard, Nahe GG, Bandol rose, CA/FR Champagne

by Mark Lipton » Mon Aug 31, 2026 11:56 am

Dale Williams wrote:Ginger lime chicken, udon, smashed cucumber salad, green salad

Grilled swordfish (lime/soy/ginger), soba, leftover cucumber salad, green salad
[b]2015 Terrebrune Bandol Rose[/b]
I’ve had good bottles of this recently, but this isn’t one. Heavy and heavy handed, drinks more like an orange wine than Provencal rose. Despite apparent acid the palate in flat, and the finish is clipped. C


Was that really an 11-year old rosé, Dale? Or rather a typo? If the former, I am not overly surprised that it came across as tired.
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Re: WTN: OR Chard, Nahe GG, Bandol rose, CA/FR Champagne

by Dale Williams » Mon Aug 31, 2026 12:22 pm

yes, 11 years old, but I've had couple other bottles that seemed fine (good Bandol rose can definitely age). And this tasted more weird than old- as I said, it had a phenolic character like an orange wine (I'm probably using wrong terminology, but weighty).
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Re: WTN: OR Chard, Nahe GG, Bandol rose, CA/FR Champagne

by David M. Bueker » Mon Aug 31, 2026 12:40 pm

Good to see a Kruger Rumpf note. They have really stepped it up the last several vintages. They are also about the last place to find pradikat Scheurebe these days.
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