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For discussion: Passetoutgrains

by Jenise » Thu Oct 02, 2025 5:09 pm

Just now I added a Chevillon Passetoutgrains to my little inventory (I'm down to 1,140 bottles, about half my peak). I might have mildly balked at the asking price of $52, but hey, it's Chevillon and I got it for $30 so it was a "what the heck" kind of move. This means I now own two Passetoutgrains, the other a Raphet that I received as a gift.

It dawned on me as I did the input that no one ever brings Passetoutgrains to tastings (I can only remember one) and rarely read about them here. To make sure my impression isn't incorrect, I ran a search. Three of the first four most recent posts on WLDG were Chevillons. Two by Dale, vintages '10 and '17 in '14 and '23 respectively, and the third by Robin. In 2012. Not exactly popular.

And there's less to go around these days. A quick read on the internet suggests that Passetoutgrains production is down by half or more since around 2011 because producers are pulling or grafting over to the more valuable pinot noir. Those that remain are mostly to honor the ancestors from whom they inherited the land.

We all love pinot noir, and we all love gamay and yet collectively speaking we apparently don't buy or drink them when they're vinified together. I have no opinion about it one way or the other, they just don't show up in my world though the one I mentioned having I would have bought at the $75 its owner paid for it given the chance. The situation was a side-by-side presentation of '18s, one straight Bourgogne and the other a Passetoutgrains (Lafarge, I think). He asked us to guess which was which, and half of us were wrong. But that was in Canada and they don't show up in my marketplace--you on the east coast have more options, I'm sure. The Chevillon I just put away came from out of state.

Anyway, I'm rambling and stuck home sick with too much time on my hands. But: why not buy, if priced well, Passetoutgrains?
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Re: For discussion: Passetoutgrains

by Rahsaan » Thu Oct 02, 2025 5:20 pm

That's a good question. The Loire also produces Gamay/PN blends, which can be deliciously drinkable. But I never get around to buying those very often either. Just too many wines in the world!
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Re: For discussion: Passetoutgrains

by David M. Bueker » Thu Oct 02, 2025 7:06 pm

I’ve had the Chevillon and the Lafarge versions. Neither did much for me so I never bought again.
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Re: For discussion: Passetoutgrains

by Dale Williams » Fri Oct 03, 2025 11:01 am

I do like Passetoutgrains, but don't buy often. I think the Lafarge l'Exception has the most character of any I've tried (very old Gamay vines)
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Re: For discussion: Passetoutgrains

by Paul Winalski » Fri Oct 03, 2025 11:30 am

I've never tried a Passetoutgrains. I have trouble imagining that adding gamay to the blend could be an improvement over Cote d'Or Burgundy made varietally pinot noir.

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Re: For discussion: Passetoutgrains

by Jenise » Fri Oct 03, 2025 11:51 am

Have to say, if you read thru the collection of mentions of the grape on this board, one wouldn't be very tempted to explore the category with the exception of one professed passetoutgrain enthusiast. Some interesting names pop up, though.

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Re: For discussion: Passetoutgrains

by Rahsaan » Fri Oct 03, 2025 1:16 pm

Paul Winalski wrote:I have trouble imagining that adding gamay to the blend could be an improvement over Cote d'Or Burgundy made varietally pinot noir..


It all depends on percentages, but the gamay should add some freshness and energy for an approachable wine. And obviously I don't think people are blending their Grand Cru pinot noir grapes.
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Re: For discussion: Passetoutgrains

by Peter May » Sat Oct 04, 2025 12:10 pm

When we were staying in Burgundy on a wine holiday many many years ago restaurants served passetoutgrains as their carafe wine and we enjoyed it. Nowadays Mrs M will not drink PN at all* so I don't have any PN at all.




* with the exception of Champagne
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Re: For discussion: Passetoutgrains

by Tim York » Mon Oct 06, 2025 8:04 am

For some reason, I've never bought much Passetoutgrain although I love wines from its component grapes. I have enjoyed Dôle from the Swiss Valais, which uses this blend, and also some from the Loire where there may also be Côt (AKA Malbec) in the blend. This encourages me to stretch for a Passetoutgrain next time I see one from a decent producer.
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