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WTN: Two White Rhones....(short/boring)

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WTN: Two White Rhones....(short/boring)

by TomHill » Wed Jan 08, 2025 3:31 pm

Tried these two whites a week ago:
1. Frangins & Vignerons Dom. Ozil Est-Ouest VdF WTW (13.5%; 20% Grenache Blanc/20% Marsanne/20% SauvBlanc/20% Viognier/20% Uni Blanc; "natural wine"; Ozil.Frangins.com; CaMille RiVIeRE/Fruit of the Vines/LongIslandCity/NY) Jean-Daniel et Thomas/Ardeche 2021: Med.yellow color w/ a lot of froth that dissapates; very attractive fragrant floral/RhoneBlanc/GB bit honeyed slight chalky bit complex lovely nose; lightlytart fairly stron floral/Rhonish/honeyed/GB slight appley bit rich/lush slight earthy/chalky perfectly clean/no natty quite pleasant flavor; med.long fairly lush/GB/floral/appley/honeysuckle finish that follows flavor; quite an attractive Rhonish Blanc from the Ardeche that lacks the rustic/coarse character those wines often display; a natural wine but perfectly clean & no natty character whatsoever; fairly priced at $25.50 (KK)
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2. TablasCreekVnyd Patelin de Tablas Blanc PasoRobles (13.0%; 44% GrenacheBlanc/29% Viognier/12% Marsanne/12% Roussanne/3% Clairette Blanche) Paso Robles 2017: Light gold color; really lovely fragrant/honeyed/honeysuckle/floral/peach/Viog slight chalky beautiful perfumed Rhonish nose; bit soft very rich/lush very floral/peachy/Viog/honeysuckle/GB almost R-like/pineapple bit rosemary/spicy some complex flavor;very long finish that tracks flavor; still has several yrs to go & not much nutty character et; a beautiful white Rhone that has 2-6 yrs in it yet.
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More veestercobb from TheBloodyPulpit:
1. I bought the Dom.Ozil w/ the same trepidation I always have for natural wines. Surprise/surprise...it was perfectly clean & showed no natty character at all. See....it can be done!!
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2. The Patelin de Tablas is a wine made from non-Estate (largely)/purchased grapes. Generally, it's meant for early drinking. But this Blanc had really developed nicely with 7 yrs in it and still will go on to improve more. The Patelin Rouge/Blanc is one of the real value wines from TablasCreek.
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Re: WTN: Two White Rhones....(short/boring)

by David M. Bueker » Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:05 pm

So is “Patelin” what they call the non-estate stuff, where “Esprit” is estate?
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Re: WTN: Two White Rhones....(short/boring)

by TomHill » Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:37 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:So is “Patelin” what they call the non-estate stuff, where “Esprit” is estate?

All of TCV wines are Estate, I believe, except for the two Patelins.
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