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WTN: white and red Burgs, Bandol and Sicilian roses

by Dale Williams » Tue Aug 20, 2024 3:54 pm

2023 Sibiliana "Roceno" Nerello Mascalese Rose cruises to the worst rose of the year award. I often find cheap roses insipid, but this is actively objectionable. Says 12% but has a burn, nose is less herby than medicinal, sharp finish. Nope. C-

Hmart marinated pork butt, Chinese broccoli, rice with furikake, salad
2007 Marquis d’Angerville Fremiets Volnay 1er
Light and elegant, cherries and pomegranate laced with herbs and cocoa. Fresh acids, silky mouthfeel, good finish. B+

Oysters, whole grilled branzino, burrata caprese, corn, salad
2018 Clos de la Chapelle Corton-Charlemagne
Ah, a 2018 European wine that tastes more of its appellation than of 2018! Rich core of pear and apple fruit, apple blossoms, deep chalky finish. A refined and elegant version of Corton-Charlemagne. It has ripe and powerful fruit, but zesty acids keep it balanced. A-

Swordfish, stuffed artichoke, couscous
2023 La Tour du Bon Bandol Rose
Strawberry and blood oranges, a little watermelon, some salty notes on finish. Pretty straightforward Bandol rose. B/B+

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Re: WTN: white and red Burgs, Bandol and Sicilian roses

by David M. Bueker » Tue Aug 20, 2024 7:08 pm

One of my few wine regrets is the lack of d’Angerville in the cellar.
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Re: WTN: white and red Burgs, Bandol and Sicilian roses

by Rahsaan » Tue Aug 20, 2024 7:52 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:One of my few wine regrets is the lack of d’Angerville in the cellar.


So do you guys like the d'Angerville Fremiets? I always think about buying some because it's one of the cheaper 1er crus chez d'Angerville. But of course it's not cheap in absolute terms, and then I don't always see the raving excitement that one hears for the Taillepieds, Champans or Ducs.
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Re: WTN: white and red Burgs, Bandol and Sicilian roses

by Steve Edmunds » Tue Aug 20, 2024 8:57 pm

Dale, I'm guessing your Bandol entry was regarding La Tour du Bon?
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Re: WTN: white and red Burgs, Bandol and Sicilian roses

by Dale Williams » Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:52 am

Steve Edmunds wrote:Dale, I'm guessing your Bandol entry was regarding La Tour du Bon?


Oops, you are correct, I should take photos rather than use notes, will correct
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Re: WTN: white and red Burgs, Bandol and Sicilian roses

by Dale Williams » Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:01 am

Rahsaan wrote:
David M. Bueker wrote:One of my few wine regrets is the lack of d’Angerville in the cellar.


So do you guys like the d'Angerville Fremiets? I always think about buying some because it's one of the cheaper 1er crus chez d'Angerville. But of course it's not cheap in absolute terms, and then I don't always see the raving excitement that one hears for the Taillepieds, Champans or Ducs.


I'm scarcely an expert. But I see the Angerville stable as the Ducs way above rest (I think I'd declare it and the Lafarge Chenes as the top 2 wines in appellation, at least post-Potel Pousse d'Or). Then Champans, Taillepieds, Fremiets in that order but pretty tight, then generic 1er (there's a Caillerets but I've only had one disappointing bottle, don't really have sense where to place). With pricing of Ducs it's likely the Fremiets is more in my budget these days.
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Re: WTN: white and red Burgs, Bandol and Sicilian roses

by Mark Lipton » Fri Aug 23, 2024 3:10 pm

Dale Williams wrote:
Rahsaan wrote:
David M. Bueker wrote:One of my few wine regrets is the lack of d’Angerville in the cellar.


So do you guys like the d'Angerville Fremiets? I always think about buying some because it's one of the cheaper 1er crus chez d'Angerville. But of course it's not cheap in absolute terms, and then I don't always see the raving excitement that one hears for the Taillepieds, Champans or Ducs.


I'm scarcely an expert. But I see the Angerville stable as the Ducs way above rest (I think I'd declare it and the Lafarge Chenes as the top 2 wines in appellation, at least post-Potel Pousse d'Or). Then Champans, Taillepieds, Fremiets in that order but pretty tight, then generic 1er (there's a Caillerets but I've only had one disappointing bottle, don't really have sense where to place). With pricing of Ducs it's likely the Fremiets is more in my budget these days.


Apropos of this, I was greeted in the mail today with an offer of the '21 Ducs for the low, low price of $799 a bottle. I can't imagine why you aren't buying up a case of it, Dale. (If that Caillerets was the '98 that I think I split with you, I understand what you're talking about)
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Re: WTN: white and red Burgs, Bandol and Sicilian roses

by Dale Williams » Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:26 pm

Really insane, as you can buy good mature vintages for less (though still too expensive for me these days)
Yes, the 98 Caillerets, I think one was corked and one was disappointing, but I think latter was just opened at an awkward time. Forgot that was a split!
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Re: WTN: white and red Burgs, Bandol and Sicilian roses

by Mark Lipton » Sat Aug 24, 2024 10:58 pm

Dale Williams wrote:Really insane, as you can buy good mature vintages for less (though still too expensive for me these days)
Yes, the 98 Caillerets, I think one was corked and one was disappointing, but I think latter was just opened at an awkward time. Forgot that was a split!


My two bottles were relentlessly tight, to the extent that I worried whether the fruit would survive long enough to see the uncoiling of the wine. I chalked that up to the effects of the vintage in the CdB.

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