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WTN: Cheap wines in Lisbon and Catalonia

by Dale Williams » Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:29 pm

5 nights in Lisbon, 4 in Catalonia (La Rapita, halfway between Barcelona and Valencia, and an olive finca in hills above). In Lisbon sharing a lovely AirBnb with another Dobbs Ferry couple, then they went north while we went east. Both Portugal and Spain were visiting friends who moved there. I was only wine geek, and we did no wine visits. Lots of house wines in restaurants (great values if not great wines). The 3 places that had fairly serious lists I didn't indulge- a lunch where I would have been only one drinking, an Italian place with modernista Italian wines, and a tapas place with nice bottles, but I only wanted one glass. Notes were sketchy, and I maybe didn't get all info on every wine.

2018 Casa de Saima Bairrada Garrafeira
Cassis and black cherries, tree bark, a little smoke, rich but with slightly grating tannins. B/B+

2019 Quinto di Carno Baga
Soft and easy, ripe black fruit, soft finish. B

2023 Palacio da Brejoeira Alvarhinho

Snappy Vinho Verde, touch of spritz, citrus and saline. Probably just an ok wine, but helped by the incredible shellfish at Ramiro. B

2023 Soalheiro Alvarinho
Bright acids, nutty notes and citrus, good. Nice with sardines, mussels, and canaílhas (spiny dye murex!) B

2022 Marofa Adamado
Well, this was cold on a warm night in a lovely garden, but that was best thing about it. Touch sweet, a bit dilute, totally forgettable. C+

2023 JP Azeitao Moscatel Graudo Fernao Pires
Overly floral, lightly sweet, quite short, I coulfdn’t drink this but it didn’t seem to hurt mussels when used for cooking,. C-
(I noticed on TAP Air Portugal JP was producer of economy class wines, made me glad I was abstaining)

There were also a couple of wines I was totally confused by producer. One Georgian orange wine, a Khikhvi from the Kakheti region, had a name that might have been LALEN, but written in Georgian letters (not same as Cyrillic) Tangy, tea and citrus, more interesting than good. A 2019 Rabigato was terrible, but didn’t get producer. A rose (that seemed more like an orange wine) called Humus was actually interesting and fun with a chorizo snack. A white served from carafe at a fado place was adequate.

In Catalonia mostly had house wines with tapas. At one place I ordered the 2023 Lorenzo Cachazo Rueda (blend of Verdejo & Viura), a bright slightly grassy white that was fine for 3 euros. And a supermarket bottle of 2023 Agusti Torello Mata “XIC” Xarel-lo (Penedes) reminded me of why Xarello maybe should just be used for cava (C+).

Several Cs there, but reality lots of house wines I didn't mention were quite decent at 3-4 euros (or free).

Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C drinkable. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.
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Re: WTN: Cheap wines in Lisbon and Catalonia

by Dale Williams » Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:31 pm

PS I hasten to mention I KNOW there are very good to great Portugese and Spanish wines, it just wasn't what focus of trip was, so put no real effort into finding.
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Re: WTN: Cheap wines in Lisbon and Catalonia

by Rahsaan » Tue Jul 16, 2024 2:03 pm

Sounds great. Even if not a wine geeky trip, still lots of atmospheric fun to be had enjoying the food, scenery, and the wines that 'normal' people drink, which can often provide some pleasure, if not quite the artisanal precision of wine geek wines.
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Re: WTN: Cheap wines in Lisbon and Catalonia

by Patrick Martin » Tue Jul 16, 2024 5:47 pm

Sounds like a great trip.

I’ve had house wines aplenty in Spain and some in Portugal, and everything is usually quite cheap and eminently drinkable, but I think the best house wines I’ve had on the whole have been in Italy, especially Tuscany.
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Re: WTN: Cheap wines in Lisbon and Catalonia

by David M. Bueker » Tue Jul 16, 2024 5:56 pm

Patrick Martin wrote:Sounds like a great trip.

I’ve had house wines aplenty in Spain and some in Portugal, and everything is usually quite cheap and eminently drinkable, but I think the best house wines I’ve had on the whole have been in Italy, especially Tuscany.


I have had fantastic house wines in Torino. Usually Arneis for the white and Ruche for the red.
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