The place for all things wine, focused on serious wine discussions.

WTN: Chablis, etc.

Moderators: Jenise, Robin Garr, David M. Bueker

no avatar
User

Patchen Markell

Rank

Wine guru

Posts

1055

Joined

Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:18 am

Location

Ithaca, New York

WTN: Chablis, etc.

by Patchen Markell » Sat Jun 08, 2024 12:15 pm

2014 Domaine Dublère Chablis Grand Cru Valmur. The first bottle of a few. Concentrated aroma and flavor, showing a touch of smoke, at first, over dry but stickily candied citrus peel. The initial mouthfeel is big despite the wine seeming, over the whole arc, only medium-bodied. Has a longish minerally finish that turns a little vegetal at the end. I opened a 2014 Valmur from Bessin in April and thought it was better than this -- more integrated, a little more "Chablis" -- but this isn't bad, and has room to continue to develop, maybe for the better.

(Other than a couple of spit tastes, including of an excellent 2010 Stony Hill Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon, this was my first wine in a few weeks, and it seems I'll be in a state of permanent hyper-moderation, which I've decided to interpret as a good opportunity to enhance my overall health; an excuse to buy a fancy Zalto spittoon; and a way to substantially increase the effective size of my cellar, measured in terms of drinking-years, without actually buying more wine.*)

*Which does not mean I'm going to stop buying more wine, of course.

Catching up on some stuff I didn't post from the first half of May:

Château Carbonnieux 2017 Pessac-Léognan Blanc. Very nicely balanced bottle, middle-weight, green without being explicitly sharp, waxed edges for a smooth glide. Still young and has a long life ahead.

Ingrid Groiss 2017 Weinviertel Gemischter Satz, Braitenpuechtorff. Didn’t know what to expect from this given the bottle age, but perhaps thanks to the screwcap it’s still fresh, though without quite the sharp edges I recall from youth. Paired well with Ottolenghi chard fritters served alongside miso roasted salmon. I have several more of the 2017 along with some more recent purchases (2022, I think). Terrific value and a delicious wine.

Ingrid Groiss Weinviertel 2020 Grüner Veltliner, Sauberg Tradition. An electric zip of spice cutting through a viscous green sky. Rich, vibrant, delicious. Wish I had more of this, and readier access to Groiss’s wines in general.

Jonata 2013 Ballard Canyon "El Alma de Jonata." First impression is of a complex but vertically disjointed wine, with a lot of ripe Cab Franc aromatics (this vintage is 81% CF) stacked on top of a dark, tarry, almost gritty tannic structure. With air, the layers integrate, which results in a wine that's more pleasant to drink but also a little less interesting, sacrificing aromatic complexity for texture. Still, the basics are solid, and I'd drink it again, though recent vintages are now way beyond what I'd pay for it. If I had another bottle I'd hold 5+years on the theory that this is in a slightly awkward adolesence.

Larkmead 2015 Napa Valley Sauvignon Blanc, "Lillie." This is almost certainly at or just past peak, and it’s in a very nice place, rich in texture with bright honeydew and gooseberry fruit softened by age, enough acidity to be lively, and the light oak treatment (15% new for 8 months) now almost imperceptible. For something that, if I were generalizing, I’d say wasn’t my style, I like this a lot, which is why I guess I shouldn’t generalize.
cheers, Patchen
no avatar
User

David M. Bueker

Rank

Childless Cat Dad

Posts

34931

Joined

Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am

Location

Connecticut

Re: WTN: Chablis, etc.

by David M. Bueker » Sat Jun 08, 2024 1:07 pm

Join me. I have stopped buying wine. Been 6 weeks now, and that’s the longest in I don’t know how long.
Decisions are made by those who show up
no avatar
User

Patchen Markell

Rank

Wine guru

Posts

1055

Joined

Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:18 am

Location

Ithaca, New York

Re: WTN: Chablis, etc.

by Patchen Markell » Sat Jun 08, 2024 1:11 pm

4+ weeks for me, but that's not unusual for summer non-shipping season. Fall releases will be the test. I found it much easier to stop drinking wine than to stop buying it (for which I suppose I should be grateful!).

Now if I could just stop buying books... nah.
cheers, Patchen
no avatar
User

David M. Bueker

Rank

Childless Cat Dad

Posts

34931

Joined

Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am

Location

Connecticut

Re: WTN: Chablis, etc.

by David M. Bueker » Sat Jun 08, 2024 1:57 pm

Yeah, when that Bedrock or Yeah! email shows up I might get the shakes.
Decisions are made by those who show up
no avatar
User

Rahsaan

Rank

Wild and Crazy Guy

Posts

9420

Joined

Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:20 pm

Location

New York, NY

Re: WTN: Chablis, etc.

by Rahsaan » Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:25 pm

Amazing that you guys find it harder to stop buying than to stop drinking. I guess it's a function of having lots of space!

I love spending time in wine shops, although it seems like that is happening less and less these days. Even when I buy from brick and mortar it's online order and then in-person pickup. But, I've never had a problem not buying wine. It's pretty simple. Don't - buy - wine!
no avatar
User

David M. Bueker

Rank

Childless Cat Dad

Posts

34931

Joined

Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am

Location

Connecticut

Re: WTN: Chablis, etc.

by David M. Bueker » Sat Jun 08, 2024 9:52 pm

I have a collector gene. Before wine it was music.
Decisions are made by those who show up
no avatar
User

Jenise

Rank

FLDG Dishwasher

Posts

43581

Joined

Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm

Location

The Pacific Northest Westest

Re: WTN: Chablis, etc.

by Jenise » Sun Jun 09, 2024 1:22 pm

Patchen, until I read your note yesterday I hadn't even heard of Ingrid Groiss, but coincidentally last night a rose showed up at a party. It was the latest vintage of the Hasenhaide Rosé, I presume '23, and it was quite delicious. Super pale pink color, zingy and crunchy and dry. Too acidic for some present who mostly expect new world fruit and sweetness, but just right for me. I have no idea what the base grapes are, but if you see it, it's a winner.
My wine shopping and I have never had a problem. Just a perpetual race between the bankruptcy court and Hell.--Rogov
no avatar
User

Rahsaan

Rank

Wild and Crazy Guy

Posts

9420

Joined

Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:20 pm

Location

New York, NY

Re: WTN: Chablis, etc.

by Rahsaan » Sun Jun 09, 2024 3:40 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:I have a collector gene.


Yes, there does seem to be a lot of that in wine.
no avatar
User

Patchen Markell

Rank

Wine guru

Posts

1055

Joined

Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:18 am

Location

Ithaca, New York

Re: WTN: Chablis, etc.

by Patchen Markell » Sun Jun 09, 2024 5:53 pm

Yeah, for me it’s books, music, and wine. The difference between the books and the wine being that no one’s ever going to tell me to read less, but a structural engineer might tell me to cut back on my book-buying!

Jenise: I discovered Ingrid Groiss’s wines back in Chicago and loved everything I tried, which admittedly was only about four bottlings. The Gemischter Satz is insanely good for under $20. Off the radar in the US, I guess, because her region, from around Vienna, doesn’t have the name recognition of the Wachau or Kamptal? Didn’t see them in centrally isolated Ithaca until recently and practically bought out the store.
cheers, Patchen
no avatar
User

Patchen Markell

Rank

Wine guru

Posts

1055

Joined

Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:18 am

Location

Ithaca, New York

Re: WTN: Chablis, etc.

by Patchen Markell » Sun Jun 09, 2024 5:59 pm

Oh, and I have some of that rosé on deck! Glad it was good.
cheers, Patchen

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], ClaudeBot, Google AgentMatch and 1 guest

Powered by phpBB ® | phpBB3 Style by KomiDesign