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WTN: Two Forlorn-Hope PinotGris Ramatos....(short/boring)

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WTN: Two Forlorn-Hope PinotGris Ramatos....(short/boring)

by TomHill » Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:00 pm

We tried these two Ramatos last night at Pig+Fig:
1. Forlorn-Hope Dragone Ramato PinotGris RorickHeritageVnyd/CalaverasCnty (11.61%; 77 cs) Murphys 2017: Ruby/garnet/ramato color; quite fragrant PG/very floral/gardenias very spicy/perfumed talc beautiful/complex nose; fairly tart/tangy bit metallic slight phenolic rose/dried rose petal bit tannic apple/PG/bit floral rather austere flavor w/ some tannins; very long finish that mimics flavor w/ rather austere tannins; a really lovely complex nose but rather hard/Friuli-like on the palate; probably needs another 5-7 yrs age yet. $30.00
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2. Forlorn-Hope DragoneRamato PinotGris RorickHeritageVnyd/CalaverasCnty/SierraFoothills (10.64%) 2018: Lighter bright garnet/ramato color; less aromatic some PG/floral/rose petal lightly spicy slight earthy quite attractive nose; rather tart/tangy some tannic/austere bit earthy/low fruit slight PG/apply/floral quieter flavor w/ hard austere tannins; very long rather austere/tannic/hard finish that mirrors flavor; not as strongly aromatic/complex & still a young ramato that needs more age. $30.00
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More stucoblits from TheBloodyPulpit:
1. I have always liked MattRorick's PG ramatos. But, when young, they tend to resemble some of the Friuli PG ramatos and typically need some age. I slightly preferred the '17 because of the stronger aromatics. But both of these badly need age.
Tom

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