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Hoke
Achieving Wine Immortality
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:07 am
Portland, OR
Paul Winalski
Wok Wielder
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:16 pm
Merrimack, New Hampshire
Bob Ross wrote:"We took grapes from as many different regions of the world as possible, and the changes were all the same," she said.
This evidence suggests that all the white grape varieties have a single genetic ancestor.
Paul Winalski
Wok Wielder
8500
Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:16 pm
Merrimack, New Hampshire
James Roscoe
Chat Prince
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:43 pm
D.C. Metro Area - Maryland
Hoke wrote:I think it was all Intelligent Design!
Peter May
Pinotage Advocate
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Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:24 am
Snorbens, England
Peter May wrote:Fascinating
But would not this 'single' incident happening also be evidence of viticulture, in that the mutated white grape vines were chosen and cloned by farmers.
Because wouldn't they otherwise naturally die out, since my understanding is that red grapes remain green until they are ready for the growing and turn red to attract birds etc that will eat them and spread the seeds.
Paul Winalski
Wok Wielder
8500
Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:16 pm
Merrimack, New Hampshire
Paul Winalski
Wok Wielder
8500
Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:16 pm
Merrimack, New Hampshire
Isaac wrote:I find myself wondering what would happen if one or both of the color genes were to be switched back on in white varieties.
What would a Chardonnay Noir taste like? Would a Sauvignon Noir be more or less interesting than a Sauvignon Blanc?
Paul Winalski
Wok Wielder
8500
Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:16 pm
Merrimack, New Hampshire
Mandy Walker
Just got here
1
Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:01 am
Adelaide, Australia
Steve Slatcher
Wine guru
1047
Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:51 am
Manchester, England
Isaac wrote:I find myself wondering what would happen if one or both of the color genes were to be switched back on in white varieties.
What would a Chardonnay Noir taste like? Would a Sauvignon Noir be more or less interesting than a Sauvignon Blanc?
Steve Slatcher
Wine guru
1047
Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:51 am
Manchester, England
Dan Smothergill wrote:Many Labrusca grapes that are used to make "white" wines are themselves darkly pigmented. Delaware is an example.
Carl Eppig
Our Maine man
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:38 pm
Middleton, NH, USA
Yeah, kinda sorta, but it is a cross, and necessarily brings characteristics other than color from the red parent. To my mind, this is not close enough to serve as an example.Paul Winalski wrote:Well, this kinda sorta has happened. The variety we now know as cabernet sauvignon has been found to be a cross between sauvignon blanc and cabernet franc. Now, it's possible (indeed, likely) that cab. sauvignon inherited both color genes from cab. franc. But for many years the linguistically obvious cross sauvignon blanc x cabernet franc was summarily dismissed as cabernet sauvignon's parentage because it seemed absurd that crossing a dark grape with a white grape would yield an even darker grape. Yet indeed it was the case!
-Paul W.
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