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Robin Garr wrote:It's popular in California, where Jancis Robinson says there's more of it grown than in France... a useful player in improving anonymous jug-wine blends.
Bob Parsons Alberta wrote:Nice one Rahsaan. I have the 09 demi sec as well as the 05 Le Mont. Have to say that S Africa always features in my CB buying.....Spier, Bellingham, Badenhorst, Mullineux.
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Jenise wrote:A friend opened this two weeks ago; he's a retailer so a knowledgeable person and he saved this one obviously expecting a big reward down the line. Didn't happen. His 2010 Guy Saget Vouvray Marie de Beauregard had a decayed pineapple nose rounded by age and too much RS. Just sat flat and sweet on the tongue.
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Peter May
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Peter May wrote:I think South Africa (RSA) makes the best Chenin. They've been growing it since 1656 and make it in all possible styles, i.e. only not as a red wine!
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Rahsaan wrote:I don't think so. He was a former banker who moved to the Loire in the 90s and started making low-sulfur/biodynamic wine. But they were not wild 'natural' wine stereotypes, always solid and delicious, if a bit uneven in the beginning (as one might expect).
I always enjoyed them, but never considered them as 'special' as some folks did. Now they have become cult wines that are so expensive and hard to find, so I guess it will be difficult for me to update my views!
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Tim York wrote:There is a French website offering current vintages for in the €50 and 70 range which is expensive for Loire chenin - about the same as Coulée de Serrant and the white Saumur from Thierry Germain but well above the €20-30 range for the likes of Chidaine, Huet and Foreau. This is still a ling way short of prices for top sites from Puligny-Montrachet, Chassagne-Montrachet and Meursault but the gap is closing slowly.
Peter May wrote:Afterwards we went back to the chateau for a tasting. I wasn't tempted to buy, and I can't recall that anyone else did..
Rahsaan wrote:Peter May wrote:Afterwards we went back to the chateau for a tasting. I wasn't tempted to buy, and I can't recall that anyone else did..
Ha! So you didn't like the wines at all?
They've gone through many stylistic shifts over the years. Closel used to be cranky and backwards but starting in 2002 they got more modern and forward, perhaps too much so. Apparently in recent years they have reached a happy medium between those two extremes, although I haven't sampled much.
So much wine, so little time!
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