WTN: An Austrian Gruner & A Zweigelt....(short/boring)

Tried these w/ Susan over the weekend:
1. Nikolaihof Zwickl naturtrub GrunerVeltliner (11%; http://www.Nikolaihof.At; Demeter BioDynamic Wine; Skurnik Imprts/NY) Mautern/Wachau 2020: Med.light gold color w/ lots of tiny swirling bubbles that dissapate; rather strong/intense GV/white pepper/very spicy very floral/gardenias light stony/chalky/mineral very perfumed some complex nose; quite tart/tangy/bit metallic fairly rich/lush intense GV/white pepper/spicy very floral/gardenias some mineral/stony somewhat structured flavor; very long/lingering intense GV/floral/white pepper/gardenias/spicy complex finish; a beautiful intense GV/gardenias smaargd-level wine w/ maybe a slight touch of sweetness (0.3%-0.5% r.s; a terrific example of Austrian GV at a fair price. $35.00 (SFW&S)
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2. Brunn Blauer Zweigelt Niederosterreich (13.0%; trocken; Artisan Collection/NY) 2017: Med.dark color; strong Zweigelt/grapey/plummy somewhat earthy/loamy slight mushroomy/ContraCosta Mourv pleasant grapey nose; soft rather lush fairly earthy/loamy strong Zweigelt/plummy/grapey bit simple/coarse flavor w/ light soft/mushy tannins; med.short rather soft/mushy rather earthy/loamy some plummy/Zweigelt/grapey/bit chocolaty rather simple/coarse finish w/ light mushy tannins & some bitterness; a pretty typical Zweigelt that's not much interesting; a dullard of a grape can't make a great wine. $19.00/litre (SFW&S)
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More liggerhopf from TheBloodyPulpit:
1. Zweigelt is the most widely planted red grape in Austria. It is a cross between St.Laurent & Blaufrankisch. It was developed about 1922 by Fritz Zweigelt at the KlosterNeuberg Federal Institute and originally called Rotberger. Because of LenzMoser, the name was changed to Blauer Zweigelt. Because of Zweigelt's enthusiastic embracing of Naziism in the late '30's, there is a movement afoot to ditch that name & return it to Rotberger. I guess Austria has their woke culture as well.
NaziZweigelt

I've never been very fond of the Zweigelts I've tried. They lack structure & show little high-toned character to my palate. A grape probably best tossed on the dustbin of history.
Tom

[David M. Bueker]

I have a very different opinion of Zweigelt. To me it’s the Gamay of Austria, and makes wines with a lot of the same virtues as Beaujolais. Maybe not top Cru Beaujolais, but a good, honest Beaujolais Villages that provides pleasure alongside a summer meal. That’s enough for me to think well of the grape.

Yeah, the backstory is unfortunate, but we probably don’t need you to trot it out every time you try another bottle of a wine you know you won’t like.

[David M. Bueker]

I think it’s worth reading a recent (today!) note on a Schloss Gobelsburg Zweigelt.

https://www.terrytheise.com/weingut-sch ... sburg-2022