Jenise
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Jenise wrote:2018 Red Stone Chardonnay, Limestone Vineyard, Beamsville Niagra/Ontario
Jenise
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Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
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John S wrote:Yes, this is a second label, and the wines are all from non-estate sources I think. There is some great chardonnay and riesling being made in Ontario now, and I tend to stick to the limestone vineyards and regions as well. Bachelder is probably the top producer and winemaker for chardonnay at this time.
Jenise wrote:All Ontario chards I've had were terrific. What I would hope for and never buy California again if I could get them kind of terrific. But not this one.
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Jenise wrote:Of the ten Ontario chards I've had, two Pearl Morisettes were arguably the best followed by two Norman Hardies--different vintages/vineyards all and different occasions. Yet each was consistently excellent no matter what. Ted, I don't even see Norman on your list. Did have a Bachelder too, btw, in there, and it was very good.
Ted Richards wrote:There are some other great Chardonnay producers in Ontario besides Bachelder (his best is "Wismer Wingfield Ouest"):Other very good producers, in my experience (and I'm undoubtedly missing some I haven't tried yet):
- Clos Jordanne "Le Grand Clos" (a separately owned winery, but Bachelder was the founding wine maker up to 2009, and since 2017)
- Queylus Grand Réserve (Bachelder was the founding winemaker and may still consult there, Kelly Mason is the winemaker now)
- The Farm (Kelly Mason was the winemaker up until 2021)
- Cloudsley single vineyard Chardonnays
- On Seven (I haven't tried any of my bottles yet, but they get great reviews)
Thomas Bachelder is a very interesting person - as well as being responsible for arguably Ontario's finest Pinot Noir and Chardonnay wines - winemaker at Clos Jordanne, Queylus and Bachelder, and consultant at a few other wineries - his goal is to do for Niagara what the monks did for Burgundy - delineate the finest vineyards and, if possible, personally make wine from them. He's a fascinating speaker too, if you get the chance to hear him hold forth. Interestingly, he used to make wines in Burgundy and Oregon under the Bachelder label, but has given them up because he can't make the best Burgundy or Oregon wines (because he can't get the best grapes), but he can make the best Ontario wines.
- Hidden Bench, especially the Tête de Cuvée (best) and Felseck Vineyard (2018 Felseck was Best In Show at Decanter World Wine Awards)
- Mason Vineyard (not yet, but Kelly Mason is the winemaker for Queylus, was for The Farm until 2021, and I bet she'll produce a very good one)
- Tawse Quarry Road (best) and Robyn's Block
- Flat Rock Cellars "The Rusty Shed"
- Leaning Post Senchuck Vineyard
- Westcott "Butler's Grant" Vineyard (but you have to join their wine club to buy it)
- Rosehall Run "JCR", in Prince Edward County
By the way, for those interested in following Ontario (and occasionally BC) wines, I highly recommend https://winesinniagara.com/, with lots of reviews of the better Ontario and occasionally BC wines, and features on wineries.
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