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David M. Bueker
Childless Cat Dad
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
David M. Bueker
Childless Cat Dad
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
Tim York wrote:The only wines varietally labelled Cabernet Sauvignon in France are downmarket vins de cépage and I think the same goes for Italy and Spain. Luckily I have a few left from California, one or two of which I may open for this thread.
Jenise
FLDG Dishwasher
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
The Pacific Northest Westest
Tim York wrote:The only wines varietally labelled Cabernet Sauvignon in France are downmarket vins de cépage and I think the same goes for Italy and Spain. Luckily I have a few left from California, one or two of which I may open for this thread.
Jenise wrote:Tim York wrote:The only wines varietally labelled Cabernet Sauvignon in France are downmarket vins de cépage and I think the same goes for Italy and Spain. Luckily I have a few left from California, one or two of which I may open for this thread.
Spain: I know I've had some delicious cabs from Spain though it's particular to certain regions. Torres Mas de Planas (which I seem to think has a different name now, though I don't recall what)? Wouldn't call that downmarket.
Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
The Pacific Northest Westest
David M. Bueker
Childless Cat Dad
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
David M. Bueker
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
Peter May
Pinotage Advocate
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Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:24 am
Snorbens, England
David M. Bueker wrote:Yes. This month is about wines that say Cabernet Sauvignon on the front label. Blends are later in the year.
That being said, as is normal for Wine Focus, we are flexible.
David M. Bueker
Childless Cat Dad
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
Tim York wrote:David M. Bueker wrote:Yes. This month is about wines that say Cabernet Sauvignon on the front label. Blends are later in the year.
That being said, as is normal for Wine Focus, we are flexible.
I understand your front label line when it comes to Cab but will you maintain it with Pinot Noir, Chardonnay and Gamay. If so, it will exclude single varietal Burgundy and Beaujolais except for a few growers from outlying areas like the Mâconnais who do, illegally I think, put the variety on the front label. When it comes to Gamay, even in Touraine, the variety is not front labelled by leading growers like Henry Marionnet.
If so, ironically the Cab thread is the only single varietal one where I will be able to contribute thanks to a handful of Cali Cabs in my cellar.
Paul Winalski
Wok Wielder
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:16 pm
Merrimack, New Hampshire
David M. Bueker
Childless Cat Dad
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
Paul Winalski wrote:Varietal cabernet sauvignon ice wine? Did they ferment it on or off the skins? And here I thought the Lustau tintilla de Rota red Jerez that I have was the strangest thing that had been done to red grapes.
-Paul W.
Paul Winalski
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:16 pm
Merrimack, New Hampshire
David M. Bueker
Childless Cat Dad
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
Paul Winalski wrote:Are they sweet read wines or vinified as white wine?
-Paul W.
David M. Bueker
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
The Pacific Northest Westest
David M. Bueker
Childless Cat Dad
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
Jenise wrote:
2014 Bevan Cellars Cabernet Sauvignon McGah Vineyard
This is anything but a spinster. She's that other girl at the party: overweight, flashy and loud, obviously on the hunt. Opaque black color but blue-magenta at the rim, rather unusual for a 7 year old wine. Extracted and dense, with bright, open flavors of blackberry cordial, blueberry pie and dark chocolate on grippy tannins. Decanted two hours, consumed over two hours and the last sip was the best, but at this stage, for the $$$ she's not compelling and at closing time, she's the only one left. I like the less expensive Ontogeny better. In fact, I can think of a lot of $40 cabs I've liked more.
Peter May
Pinotage Advocate
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Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:24 am
Snorbens, England
Paul Winalski wrote:Are they sweet read wines or vinified as white wine?
-Paul W.
Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
The Pacific Northest Westest
David M. Bueker wrote:I keep trying Russell's higher end Cabs, and always end up preferring the Ontogeny. I have a few from 2017 & 2018 to try (including the vaunted Dr. Crane), so we'll see.
David M. Bueker
Childless Cat Dad
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
Jenise wrote:David M. Bueker wrote:I keep trying Russell's higher end Cabs, and always end up preferring the Ontogeny. I have a few from 2017 & 2018 to try (including the vaunted Dr. Crane), so we'll see.
Just saw your note on the Elyse. In light of what we both just commented, is the Elyse a baby Ontegeny or more like his single vineyard cabs. The '14 McGah I just reported on and the three vintages of Ontogeny I've had are not the same style.
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